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Yes. Working class economic security and political liberty ASAP, please.
81% (22 votes)
No. Not quite what I’m looking for, thanks.
19% (5 votes)
Total votes: 27

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Lazy Riser
Feb 18 2006 15:30

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Lazy Riser
Feb 18 2006 15:30

Hi

I would encourage unregistered lurkers to sign up and vote, I’m counting how many people are being reached by this site as part of a research exercise.

Love

LR

The Porkadian
Feb 18 2006 15:44

this site has reached me, all the way to the heart of my bottom wink

jef costello
Feb 18 2006 20:09

Careful, it looks like some kind of shady pyramid scheme.

Ghost_of_the_re...
Feb 18 2006 22:47

Phew. I thought this was a trick question. I got it right though.

Lazy Riser
Feb 21 2006 11:09

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No. Not quite what I’m looking for, thanks

What does this pair want then? For everyone to open their hearts to Jesus? A donation to the MI5 benevolent fund?

Love

LR

cmdrdeathguts
Feb 21 2006 13:03

probably lurking nazis, and also that bbbbbbbbbbbbb cunt is probably bitter and just out to spite us.

Jason Cortez
Feb 21 2006 14:53

Be nice Revol this is a no flaming forum . Totally agreed with first para.

What's this got to do with Organising?

Admin - good point

Lazy Riser
Feb 21 2006 16:53

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What's this got to do with Organising?

Counting is organising. Regardless, I thought revol68 would come over all “it's imposition of boredom and alienation”. Oh…

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the bourgeois seperation of economic and political spheres

There is no separation implicit in…

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the general assumption that all we need is security

Maybe you don’t need it, but I do.

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i want to tear apart commodity relations not just because of fear of material poverty

For some of us, material poverty is not a fear but a reality.

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but also for it's imposition of boredom and alienation.

Walk me through some every day examples of commodity relations imposing boredom and alienation that working class economic security wouldn’t solve.

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Totally agreed with first para.

That goes for you to.

Love

LR

Lazy Riser
Mar 1 2006 10:29

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Walk me through some every day examples of commodity relations imposing boredom and alienation that working class economic security wouldn’t solve.

Can't think of any? Me neither.

I've been sorting out one or two bankruptcies lately. Given the recent “I’m In” Oxfam adverts, does anyone here believe that real material poverty is something that only applies to people in the third-world? It wouldn’t surprise me in the least, John., revol68.

Love

LR

Steven.
Mar 1 2006 13:00
Lazy Riser wrote:
I've been sorting out one or two bankruptcies lately. Given the recent “I’m In” Oxfam adverts, does anyone here believe that real material poverty is something that only applies to people in the third-world? It wouldn’t surprise me in the least, John., revol68.

About what 15% of the population here is unable to afford the necessities of life. And I've been amongst that at times. So no I don't believe it.

Lazy Riser
Mar 1 2006 13:55

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About what 15% of the population here is unable to afford the necessities of life

Whatever. Working class people either do what they’re told by middle class people or join the “unlucky” 15%. A situation that being able to sack the boss would certainly rectify.

Then you’ve got all the people with ostensibly reasonable incomes but who are crippled by debt and enslaved by useless occupations. You might be interested in the number of people who are “home owners” but live in poverty, enjoy…

http://www.jrf.org.uk/knowledge/findings/housing/113.asp

Love

LR

Steven.
Mar 1 2006 14:28
Lazy Riser wrote:
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About what 15% of the population here is unable to afford the necessities of life

Whatever. Working class people either do what they’re told by middle class people or join the “unlucky” 15%. A situation that being able to sack the boss would certainly rectify.

So watching channel 4 means you get to order ITV-watchers about? Great stuff!

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Then you’ve got all the people with ostensibly reasonable incomes but who are crippled by debt and enslaved by useless occupations. You might be interested in the number of people who are “home owners” but live in poverty, enjoy…

http://www.jrf.org.uk/knowledge/findings/housing/113.asp

Did you think I didn't know this or something? confused

Lazy Riser
Mar 1 2006 15:24

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So watching channel 4 means you get to order ITV-watchers about? Great stuff!

Absolutely. I’ve seen it happen.

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Did you think I didn't know this or something?

I was just developing your point about poverty at home. Income insecurity is the number one (actually the only) oppressive measure exercised by the bourgeoisie over the working class.

Love

LR

Steven.
Mar 1 2006 15:29
Lazy Riser wrote:
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So watching channel 4 means you get to order ITV-watchers about? Great stuff!

Absolutely. I’ve seen it happen.

Right, well next time after Desparate Housewives I'll get some You've Been Framed viewers to get my tea 8)

Lazy Riser
Mar 1 2006 15:32

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Right, well next time after Desparate Housewives I'll get some You've Been Framed viewers to get my tea

You laugh John., but I'm telling you it’s not far fetched at all. People who love a bit of Haagen Dazs and "Desperate Housewives" regularly get their house cleaned by "You've Been Framed" fans.

Love

LR

Steven.
Mar 1 2006 15:39
Lazy Riser wrote:
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Right, well next time after Desparate Housewives I'll get some You've Been Framed viewers to get my tea

You laugh John., but I'm telling you it’s not far fetched at all. People who love a bit of Haagen Dazs and "Desperate Housewives" regularly get their house cleaned by "You've Been Framed" fans.

My mum, a C4, BBC2 (and even Arte/TV5) viewer used to clean the houses of ITV watchers - and Mars ice cream eaters - every week. I used to help her. Or eat the mints they left out anyway.

Seriously LR, if it were possible, would you rather live in a Ken Loach movie than here?

Lazy Riser
Mar 1 2006 16:13

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Ken Loach is the enemy, so no. I wouldn’t mind living in a Philip Jose Farmer short story though. “Riders of the Purple Wage” to be precise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riders_of_the_Purple_Wage

Love

LR

Lazlo_Woodbine
Mar 4 2006 01:21
Lazy Riser wrote:
Ken Loach is the enemy, so no. I wouldn’t mind living in a Philip Jose Farmer short story though. “Riders of the Purple Wage” to be precise.

wow, PJF is one of my favourites; i knew we were brothers under the skin 8) Just finished one of his earlier ones, Green Planet. Quite Vance-y