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Views on conflict in Sri Lanka?

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Mick Black
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May 17 2009 16:35

Reuters is reporting the defeat of the LTTE and possible death of Vellupillai Prabhakaran.

Sri Lanka's long war reaches climax, Tigers concede

While I have little sympathy for the LTTE leadership I'm gravely concerned about the fate of the Tamil civilians in Sri Lanka now that their only military defense has been completely broken.

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May 17 2009 17:14


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While I have little sympathy for the LTTE leadership I'm gravely concerned about the fate of the Tamil civilians in Sri Lanka now that their only military defense has been completely broken.

In what meaning of the word 'defense' are you referring to? Do you mean the same people who used to civilian populations for decades as human shields, press ganged children into the fighting and dealt summarily with anyone disagreeing with them? This was the 'defense' of the Tamil civilians? On what basis are you seperating the LTTE 'leadership' and 'defense' parts? They're not one and the same?

The point is that the civilians are exactly caught between a murderous Sri Lankan goverment and an equally murderous Tamil nationalist gang and it's politically dangerous to be seen to come down on one side or the other.

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May 17 2009 17:26
Mick Black wrote:
While I have little sympathy for the LTTE leadership I'm gravely concerned about the fate of the Tamil civilians in Sri Lanka now that their only military defense has been completely broken.

With regards to what used to be LTTE territory I agree somewhat with your concern. I am sure the civilians there will be treated as LTTE (regardless of them supporting them or not) and will be subject to "revenge" from the Sri Lankan army in the short run.

But, in the east where the LTTE have not had complete control of the territory (though working effectively underground) and the Sri Lankan army has been dominant, the Tamils have been ok (discriminated against to some degree, but not completely fucked over). Basically, it's not clear cut what will happen in the long run.

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May 17 2009 18:21
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While I have little sympathy for the LTTE leadership I'm gravely concerned about the fate of the Tamil civilians in Sri Lanka now that their only military defense has been completely broken.

In what meaning of the word 'defense' are you referring to? Do you mean the same people who used to civilian populations for decades as human shields, press ganged children into the fighting and dealt summarily with anyone disagreeing with them? This was the 'defense' of the Tamil civilians? On what basis are you seperating the LTTE 'leadership' and 'defense' parts? They're not one and the same?

The point is that the civilians are exactly caught between a murderous Sri Lankan goverment and an equally murderous Tamil nationalist gang and it's politically dangerous to be seen to come down on one side or the other.

Defense as in Military Defense, as in the armed LTTE units defending the territory in the so-called "No Fire zone" with an estimated 50,000 Tamil civilians from the barbarous attack from the Sri Lankan Military.

I don't separate the LTTE leadership from the defense aspect, but I do separate the leadership from the rank and file of the LTTE as I do with all capitalist and nationalist armies.

I'm not coming down on any side, I'm simply concerned that as bad as the LTTE is the fact is that the unarmed Tamil civilians in the combat zone (and more broadly on the island as a whole) are now at the complete mercy of the butchers that make up the leadership of the Sri Lankan military.

What will happen in the long term is up for debate, but in the immediate term I think we should be concerned about the very real possibility of mass disappearances, internment camps, and killings of Tamils by the Sri Lankan military.

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May 18 2009 03:08

the guardian's version, has much of the same information as in #31 above:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/17/tamil-surrender-sri-lanka

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May 18 2009 07:51

Latest news is Prabhakaran is surrounded and not dead

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8054963.stm

Like many other posters I don't give a fuck about him and the Tigers. Although I do realise they started their fight for an independent ethnic homeland because of discrimination and repression.

If that continues and they ain't treated equally by the singhalese I still see the tigers or another group operating underground.

I can't imagine things will be any better for Tamil civilians now their protectors (yes wankers who used their people) are defeated in a conventional war.

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May 18 2009 09:32

The BBC are once more saying he is officially dead.

This has to be the worst effigy I have ever seen.lol ->

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8055190.stm

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May 18 2009 09:53

This is definitely going to put wind in the sails of right-wingers over here. "See, we can just defeat the Palestinians, we need to strike harder. Harder!"

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May 18 2009 11:03

http://links.org.au/node/1051

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May 18 2009 21:10
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This has to be the worst effigy I have ever seen.lol ->

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8055190.stm

That wasn't an effigy, it was Frank Sidebottom!

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May 18 2009 22:00

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Skips
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May 18 2009 21:57
Wellclose Square wrote:
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This has to be the worst effigy I have ever seen.lol ->

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8055190.stm

That wasn't an effigy, it was Frank Sidebottom!

Class i didnt know who that was until i googled it.lol-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Sidebottom

Mick Black
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May 27 2009 04:44

Decent introductory history on the "in defense of Marxism" website.

Socialism only way forward for Sri Lanka’s Tamils

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Oct 6 2010 04:11

Not sure how relevant this historical thing by Solidarity (UK) is, and maybe you've already seen it but just in case:
http://libcom.org/history/ceylon-jvp-uprising-april-1971