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Aflwydd
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Nov 29 2012 17:17

Double post ...

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Nov 29 2012 18:24
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Right now, I would say that there are five of us willing to engage in occupations and other disruptive activities. We'll do it, even if it's just us, but we're as small a minority as you're going to see

That's great and no one is trying to discourage you. But it's still not a reason to go through the NUS.

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Nov 29 2012 18:43

while trade unions and student unions probably have different dynamics, I think the recent blog here on The trade unions and the "crisis of leadership" narrative is probably relevant...

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Nov 30 2012 20:24
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Right now, I would say that there are five of us willing to engage in occupations and other disruptive activities. We'll do it, even if it's just us, but we're as small a minority as you're going to see

That's great and no one is trying to discourage you. But it's still not a reason to go through the NUS.

My unease comes from the fact that there is no organic relationship between elected members and the student body. I think that is at least where the difference from trade unions and students exists. I don't think there are hard or fast rules about voting or people standing, it's just I wouldn't figure such things in your strategy. But, any increase in militancy on the ground, will be mirrored in any committee, you just have to ensure that's not where it's trapped.

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Dec 4 2012 12:44

I fully agree. One of the main things I will be pushing for in my role as a representative is increased democratic participation. Right now, only elected members of the union can vote yet they have no real accountability to the people who voted them in or the manifesto they ran on (some literally didn't have a manifesto. The reality is that the elections are more often than not popularity contests than voting for the person who speaks the most sense).

Sadly, this is a very conservative university and it's a struggle to get people on board. Often, any attempt to do anything 'left wing' is met with cries of being 'anti-fun' humourless arseholes who just want to ruin everyone's good time. That's the level of debate we have to deal with right now.

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Dec 14 2012 11:17

Why don't you propose some fun stuff then?

All too often when the right accuse the left of being humourless ranters who want to stop people's fun, they're correct.

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Dec 14 2012 13:49

Propose some fun stuff? The anti-fun accusation came from us opposing Starbucks. There isn't a left block at this university 'stopping fun'; the claim was made to bully one specific guy who dares speak out against sexism, homophobia, 'lad culture' and the corrupt way our SU is run.

What do you mean by 'the left' anyway? Are we talking about the horrible Socialist Action, SWP types? If so, no doubt they are, but lets not get into lumping us all in with those as if we're an unthinking, largely homogeneous group. That's the type of idiocy that should never find it's way to an Anarchist forum.