Anarchist music?

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Jan 11 2019 07:42

Why isn't there an up-up-like for this? I just got so much of their music recently (to mention as a feat!) since their albums can be difficult to come by.

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Jan 11 2019 07:47

Why isn't there an up-up-like for this? I just got so much of their music recently (to mention as a feat!) since their albums can be difficult to come by.

In response to Wellclose Square, first page.

Wellclose Square: "Not anarchist with a capital 'A', but I think Rembetika music from Greece was pretty anti-establishment/subcultural - celebrating the dissolute lifestyle of the 'Mangas' (or am I getting mixed up with comics?) of the Piraeus area of Athens in the '30s, '40s and '50s. Rembetika was the music of the Hellenic speakers of Asia Minor, expelled from Turkey in 1922, with oriental influences and bringing with them the bouzouki - it became known as 'the Greek blues', and was rediscovered by young anarchists in the late 1960s. Worth checking out is stuff by someone surnamed Janitsaris or Gennitsaris (both are googleable, I'm sure), who had his bouzouki smashed by police and was imprisoned on an island by a right-wing regime in the '30s for smoking dope and being a rembete - he featured on a BBC 2 documentary about 15 or so years ago (on You Tube, I think - just enter 'Rembetika')."

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Jan 11 2019 19:58

There’s a song on YouTube under the title 1936-Spanish Revolution with English subtitles.Accompanied by a great video and performed by a Spanish punk band.
Also The Ex-1936-The Spanish Revolution
La Barricadas is beautiful

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Jan 12 2019 04:54

What happened to Comrade Malone?

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Jan 12 2019 13:32
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What happened to Comrade Malone?

Was wondering this recently too.

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Jan 14 2019 22:21

An insight into the politics of Chumbawamba

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/jan/14/chumbawamba-alice-n...

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Feb 10 2019 18:42

Sometimes you just gotta do the right thing...

https://youtu.be/3w5AxET519E

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Feb 10 2019 18:51
ajjohnstone wrote:
An insight into the politics of Chumbawamba

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/jan/14/chumbawamba-alice-n...

So Nutter is a fucking door knocker for Corbyn, eh? It’s times like this that I wish I could figure out how to post emojis on here - the facepalm one would fit the bill nicely.

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Feb 11 2019 00:22
Noah Fence wrote:
ajjohnstone wrote:
An insight into the politics of Chumbawamba

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/jan/14/chumbawamba-alice-n...

So Nutter is a fucking door knocker for Corbyn, eh? It’s times like this that I wish I could figure out how to post emojis on here - the facepalm one would fit the bill nicely.

Might find this useful for emojis.

I'd recommend Pop Group if they haven't already been mentioned, maybe slightly less crass and abrasive than Crass but still have some pretty political songs ("We're All Prostitutes" etc.).

I like some elements of 90s hip hop but still find other aspects appalling (misogyny, working-class violence and so on). There are groups like the Coup who've done more overtly political hip hop and are against all those tendencies (Riley actually collaborated with 2Pac in the 90s). I like this by Nas (I'm not sure if the "represented by dead fucking presidents" bit refers to money or the guillotine, or both).

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Feb 11 2019 00:31

Pretty sure I saw the Pop Group around 1980.
For political hip hop B Dolan is brilliant. On stage he’s even better.

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Feb 11 2019 18:05
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Pretty sure I saw the Pop Group around 1980.
For political hip hop B Dolan is brilliant. On stage he’s even better.

I'm guessing they didn't leave much of an impression on you? I saw also the Stewart guy worked with Tricky (that's more trip hop though I guess). I think I've heard of Dolan. I'd also suggest Ceschi for political hip hop/folk punk, and Run the Jewels are another political hip hop group, but I'm not that fond of them.

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Feb 11 2019 20:22

Tell you the truth, I had a bit of a prejudice against them at the time - the We are all Prostitutes t-shirt was really popular and it was around that time I developed a hatred of band t-shirts and other merch, so probably rather stupidly I gave them a swerve. My girlfriend has just informed me that she saw them several times and that they were pretty splendid. If you’ve got any sense you’ll take notice of her and ignore me!

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Feb 11 2019 20:26

Maybe you’ll like this one Zugzwang? Political rap.

https://youtu.be/OO18F4aKGzQ

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Feb 12 2019 06:15
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Maybe you’ll like this one Zugzwang? Political rap.

https://youtu.be/OO18F4aKGzQ

It's not bad, don't instantly hate it. There are probably lots of nice political hip hop groups/artists around.

Found this by Royal Family and the Poor in my bookmarks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3iQ52UqFrQ

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Feb 12 2019 17:10

I was introduced the the concept of anarchism in(I think) 1981 by reading the fold out cover of a record by Flux of Pink Indians. This is one of their later songs, I particularly like this lyric...

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Same workers sweating down the pit, same exploiters reeping in the profit,
Same laws defining the crimes we commit,
Same people fighting, refusing to submit

https://youtu.be/iaNeB5MZIQg

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Feb 14 2019 06:15
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I was introduced the the concept of anarchism in(I think) 1981 by reading the fold out cover of a record by Flux of Pink Indians. This is one of their later songs, I particularly like this lyric...

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Same workers sweating down the pit, same exploiters reeping in the profit,
Same laws defining the crimes we commit,
Same people fighting, refusing to submit

https://youtu.be/iaNeB5MZIQg

Nice stuff, think I've come across them. Don't think there's a 70s, 80s punk/post-punk band whose name doesn't at least ring a bell from all the band-googling I've done over the years (strangely though I couldn't picture myself ever attending any type of concert). What did you think of the Smiths? I believe one of their songs has a Crass reference in it, "Still Ill"; Smiths have a lot of lyrics actually that could be interpreted as anarchist if you ask me.

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Feb 14 2019 18:11
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What did you think of the Smiths?

The Smiths were fucking ace!

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Smiths have a lot of lyrics actually that could be interpreted as anarchist if you ask me.

You’re darn tootin’

Morrisey sang

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I was looking for a job and then I found a job, and heaven knows I’m miserable now

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I believe one of their songs has a Crass reference in it,

An accidental one I should imagine. Crass had a song called Do They Owe Us A Living?
That Smiths song has the lyric(I think) ‘England is mine(or ours?), and it owes us a living.
Doubt it’s an intended reference. Still, I’d love it if it was!

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Feb 14 2019 20:05

Flux are a contender for one of the most unexpected cultural after-effects of anarcho-punk - I'd love to know the chain of transmission that led from Tube Disasters in 1981 to the bassline turning up in a Professor Green song in 2008/9.

And yeah, I think that line in Still Ill is a coincidence - but thinking about it, it could be read as Morrissey shouting out both Crass and a somewhat more dodgy/in line with his recent persona Cock Sparrer song?

For political hip-hop, have people heard Dalek? I think the overall philosophy is more black nationalist/pan-African, but they've got some good lines, and some fantastic cold industrial beats. Think they sample Chomsky on one of the last two albums. Try A Beast Caged for starters.

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Feb 14 2019 20:19

Come on then RT - were you part of the anarcho punk thing?

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Feb 14 2019 21:29

Fucking hell! That Cock Sparrer song has to be a contender go the worst music I’ve ever heard, and speaking as someone that’s heard Jimi Hendrix, that’s saying something!

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Feb 14 2019 21:31

I mean, I wasn't actually around for the 80s, but definitely a fan of a lot of the music. As it happens, a lot of my IRL activity over the few months was supporting the RMT strikes on Northern Rail, and after going down there a few times it turned out that a healthy proportion of the regular pickets at my local train station shared my love of Conflict and Discharge, in the middle of a reminiscing session one of them came out with "remember that compilation Crass put out? Got to give them credit, they certainly managed to detect a lot of bullshit for that one."

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Feb 15 2019 06:34
Noah Fence wrote:
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What did you think of the Smiths?

The Smiths were fucking ace!

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Smiths have a lot of lyrics actually that could be interpreted as anarchist if you ask me.

You’re darn tootin’

Not the scolding I was expecting, was half joking there, but yeah I like the Smiths too. Reel Around is probably my favorite track of theirs (think I prefer the non-sexual interpretation of it; most of the Smiths' songs are actually about sex, not that there's anything wrong with that) though they have a lot of nice stuff and some of Morrissey's solo stuff isn't bad either. Morrissey tries really hard to be hated it seems though, and I didn't really care for his comments on Manchester bombing or some of the other stuff he's said/done.

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Feb 15 2019 07:37

Haha! Can’t ima why Mozza hates Polyester though...

https://youtu.be/dYwDXfBJ9ZY

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Feb 21 2019 18:16

Will the bad boy get the gal or will she have to marry the bourgeois?

Henry Garat & Danielle Darrieux (with Emile Prud’homme playing accordion) - C'est un mauvais garcon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljq3Jr0d6Qw

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Feb 21 2019 18:23

Compare the Beatles' anti-direct action Revolution:

https://genius.com/The-beatles-revolution-lyrics

With Nina Simone's emancipatory version released within a year later:

https://genius.com/Nina-simone-revolution-lyrics

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Feb 21 2019 18:43
Mike Harman wrote:
Compare the Beatles' anti-direct action Revolution:

https://genius.com/The-beatles-revolution-lyrics

With Nina Simone's emancipatory version released within a year later:

https://genius.com/Nina-simone-revolution-lyrics

Here’s a great little anecdote about Nina Simone...

https://youtu.be/Ge842COFHSs

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Feb 22 2019 07:25
Mike Harman wrote:
Compare the Beatles' anti-direct action Revolution:

https://genius.com/The-beatles-revolution-lyrics

With Nina Simone's emancipatory version released within a year later:

https://genius.com/Nina-simone-revolution-lyrics

There's also Swiss metal band Sybreed's "Re-evolution" song

https://genius.com/Sybreed-reevolution-lyrics

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The machine has failed to victimize, to break us on our knees
And no longer we hear their poisoned words of fear
Corporate rape is ending now, we leave our chains and rise
We fuck the system

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Feb 22 2019 12:36

Revolution Action!

https://youtu.be/i8JBUktSxvQ

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Feb 22 2019 13:54

Ehg
https://youtu.be/KUC8m13NdEI

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Feb 27 2019 09:29
zugzwang wrote:
Mike Harman wrote:
Compare the Beatles' anti-direct action Revolution:

https://genius.com/The-beatles-revolution-lyrics

With Nina Simone's emancipatory version released within a year later:

https://genius.com/Nina-simone-revolution-lyrics

There's also Swiss metal band Sybreed's "Re-evolution" song

https://genius.com/Sybreed-reevolution-lyrics

Quote:
The machine has failed to victimize, to break us on our knees
And no longer we hear their poisoned words of fear
Corporate rape is ending now, we leave our chains and rise
We fuck the system

Simone is amazing btw. Some nice covers she has too:"Ooh Child" and another Beatles song "Here Comes the Sun". Also this:

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... in 1985 Simone fired a gun at a record company executive, whom she accused of stealing royalties. Simone said she "tried to kill him" but "missed".

I might also mention Lennon's "Working Class Hero"... will that get me a scolding?