Well will we the working class and the entire proletariat ever reach a state where collectively, the masses could challenge the state?
I have no idea where i personally fall with this, and i dont like the idea of a vanguardist revolution yet at the same time, the complete popular uprisings of the past have never been revolutionary, and i fear that may be the case as time goes on.
What do you mean exactly?
Are you asking two seperate questions - one: can we ever achieve class consciousness, and two: can you have a revolution without leaders?
Are you saying no uprising has ever been revolutionary? Or just in this country?