what does "aboliton of the wage system" mean to you?(poll)

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Feb 25 2008 17:21

People aren't that stupid. When governments produce tons of money, the money becomes worthless because people know it isn't as scarce as their labor and other commodities that are being exchanged. Why do you think non-statist currencies wouldn't work the same way?

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Feb 25 2008 20:27

What's the difference between bottom-up federal neighbourhood assemblies and a state?

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Feb 25 2008 20:55

There really can't be a hard and fast distinction drawn...and many anarchists throughout the years have recognized that what they are calling for is not the abolition of governmental functions but their radical democratization and decentralization through their subsumption into a variety of overlapping institutions with overlapping membership. This can be contrasted with the unitary and centralized institution which has a monopoly on the use of force and as a result exerts ultimate, unilateral authority in mediating disputes and deciding on important issues.

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Feb 25 2008 21:02

What about bottom-up federal neighbourhood assemblies with a monopoly on force? I quite fancy one of those.

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Feb 25 2008 21:50

What about all of the necessary forms of organization that don't fit neatly within the model of neighborhood assemblies...you know, stuff like production and the administration of workplace activities?

Real life presents us with multiple categories of identity and activity which require a variety of paralell organizational forms organized to meet the various needs and serve the diversely constituted constituencies that would inevitably arise from the complexities of social life.

You would not only need specific industrial organizations and federations but they would need to be organized simultaneously according to region, industry as well as between regions and industries...integrated all the while with a paralell system of resident, consumer and other organizations that would approximate 'neighborhood assemblies' but would need to be more diverse and numerous in order to meet people's needs effectively.

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Feb 25 2008 22:03

Yeah. But I think the institution that makes law is special. Law is sort of directing monopoly force and the creation and distribution of money.