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Is Anarchism Deontological? or Teleological?

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WeTheYouth
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Feb 4 2005 17:38
Is Anarchism Deontological? or Teleological?

I was reading peter marshalls demanding the impossible to find out that proudhon followed kants ideas on morals as actions are ends in themselves, as being deontological. I have always though that 'the ends justify the means', which approach is closer to anarchism?

WeTheYouth
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Feb 15 2005 23:08

BUMP. Help, does anyone know?

Anarch
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Feb 15 2005 23:17

Deontowhatical? Sorry, I only speak english. This is America. And yes I do mean the whole world. So enough with the fricking spanglish ya hear?

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Feb 15 2005 23:56

If i understand comrade Revol, which I am sure I do not, I think I would agree. I dont think it is acceptable to do something in the process of getting to an anarchist society that is not supported by anarchist ideals. So it would probably be wrong to shoot a crowd of innocent people to achieve an anarchist society. However, I think we have to very clearly understand that things like violence are not against anarchism. Killing a bunch of cops and bosses is not means justifying the end, that is an end in and of itself and is supported by anarchist theory.

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Feb 16 2005 00:21

Ah. Well that beats reading through loads of theory to find out. Thanks.

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Feb 16 2005 14:17

Yeah the idea of separating ends and means is a ridiculous one, its the kind of thing that leads to ludicrous situations such as the Soviet government implementing purges, killings and massive exploitation and forced labour in an attempt to 'acheive' socialism.

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Feb 24 2005 23:34
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I have always though that 'the ends justify the means', which approach is closer to anarchism?

*Most Anarchists do not believe freedom can come by any means necessary and thus that the ends do not justifies the means, rather the ends are a product of the means. So yes it is deontological as far as there is concern of ethically guided actions.

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Feb 25 2005 23:29
WeTheYouth wrote:
I have always though that 'the ends justify the means', which approach is closer to anarchism?

Be very careful people, in everything that you do. The means used sanctify or sully the ends sought.

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Feb 25 2005 23:33

Thanks, i have a better understanding now.