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ScottDean
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Sep 16 2006 21:02
Squat in Guildford

anyone want to help start a squat in guildford? we have a few ideas for places but need more people to help. send me a message if your interested
ta

barcodegeneration
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Oct 15 2006 13:32

Yea me and my mate have found a place that we wanted to squat. Maybe meet up with us to dicuss setting up a squat?

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Oct 15 2006 19:32

why chaps and chapesses?

Its not nec. a dead end if your just looking for a place to stay, and if you don't mind the imperminance, than as a youngster with no dependables, great. Free house.

But as for 'setting up squat' i think you are attaching political significance to this... Its th same as walking out of a supermarket without paying for your trolley - an understandable response to an unequal system. Beyond that, nada.

Unless you mean a Social Centre, in which case it might be worth it if you really really can't think of anything else worthwhile to do and have a group of at least 20 ppl. And have a community lead focus.

barcodegeneration
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Oct 15 2006 19:48

Setting up a social centre would be good, but at the moment have little support for this. But is just an idea at the moment, but we'll see what happens. Better to attempt these things than automatically dismiss them.

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Oct 15 2006 20:05

yes and no: the thing about squatting and attempting to make it political is...

well first off its a massive time commitment. Someone has to be there ALL DAY to deal with the owners or whoever. Thats all day every day.

Secondly, its actually a very bad idea in my experience to go 'building first, then project'. Get your prjects sorted first, or you will make the whole concept of social centre look like the 'anarchy' in the dictionary sense.

I have been in enough places which were a terrible compromise between a lving space and social projects to know wht harm they can do: They confuse people - buy making a bunch of random squatters or any freak who happens to be inside instant representatives for the politics. They demoralise participants - by drawn out fights for the direction of the project. And they generally associate would-be sound politics with subcultural identity fests.

I'm not slagging you at all, i just saw a series of spaces in north london run by the WOMBLES ruined by some 'squats not social centres' that people assumed were the same sort of thing. 5 years of good work with the community down the pan for a bunch of freaky cunts a crackheads; WOMBLES did healthy school meals for a quid fifty and free net access, books clothes meetings and films. The following squats put shitloads of weird leaflets for yoga, whales, 911 conspiracies and the like on their shelves and served chai for a bunch of derelicts who scared the shit out of everybody.

Ooh went off on one their! Anyway, yeah, have a good idea of whether its a social project or your next house before you start. What community campaigns are going on round you? Do they need a home? Perhaps do a few mobile things - like free shops - in the area first, and get a good rep.

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Oct 15 2006 20:11

oh, you must of course run everything by me first and get my approval, thats how anarchism works grin

Sorry i've been quite so monstrously patronising on this thread, but i feel strongly about social centres.

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Oct 15 2006 21:23

haha fair enough,

We were hoping that a creating a free space would attract more people that would want to become involved in the project and try to evolve it into a social centre. At the moment there is little community campaigns going on except a small youth club, as far as i can tell. But as i have said at the moment this is just an idea at the moment and if we cannot get enough support it will just become a living space.

But if ScottDean ever returns we may be able to get enough support to make this more than an idea. Also a couple of local punks seem a bit interested.

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Oct 15 2006 22:50

Ah nice one.

In my opinion, i reckon trying to get ppl on board and then evolving the squat into a SC will not work, but thats just my experience. My fave centres didn't have anyone living in them, so its very different i spose.

But just getting free housing on the other hand, just go for it smile

There may be no campaigns in ur area, but what are the main issues facing people?

Good luck with it - it must be something in the air cos 2 of my mates have just cracked buildings to start decent class-struggle @ projects. I think squatted (and legal) SC are a brilliant tactic for already sorted orgs and groups to employ, but not a good way of trying to work out what you want to do/what ur own politics are: it might be a better idea to get a local community group going first. If you build it, they will come, but they'll be orrible hippies with hair cancer grin

jammin
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Nov 5 2006 08:58

I would be up for helping out. I'm based in Woking t the mo so am near to Guildford.

I have friends who have done SC's in the Derby area but i've been looking to get something going locally either to live in or as a base for other projects.

Let me know hat you Think

barcodegeneration
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Nov 10 2006 13:44

I think starting a SC or even having somewhere as a base for community or political would be good for guildford as not much really happens around here. I know a couple of people that would help out, we have a couple of places in mind that seem suitable. Do you know anyone else that would be willing to help out?

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Nov 10 2006 16:29

I will come back to some of the points made later on, but the ASS is a good resource, especially the forum
http://www.squatter.org.uk

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Nov 12 2006 17:30
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I agree Guildford would be a good place. I will ask around to see if anyones interested but you can count me in. I would like to check these buildings out as well. Let me know if you want to arrange a meeting.

jammin
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Nov 12 2006 17:31

sorry i'm not sure how to quote!!!!

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Nov 12 2006 17:43
jammin wrote:
sorry i'm not sure how to quote!!!!

crikey. Just click quote in the bottom right hand bit beneath someones post.

I couldn't quote properly on the last boards though, and it really wasn't my fault. I'd use the brackets, they wouldn't work...

gerrardw
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Nov 19 2006 14:40

Hey folks,

We have cracked a building in Reading, just for living space cos need was urgent. Going grand though, dont think owners even know we're there, let alone give a fuck.... smile If you wanna come visit or want us to come down n give any help let us know, we're only twenty mins away. Might be good to meet up actualy just have a chat more generally cos we're so close...?

Email is ragecollective(AT)hotmail.co.uk

Tacks is mostly probably right though, unless youve got someone who will REALLY fucking drive the project and kick out any wankers i.e, a boss! wink But if you start a social centre, get a pool table for free and the masses will come running...... wink

But good luck, n get in touch,
Cheers, G

barcodegeneration
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Nov 22 2006 00:55

yea the social centre is looking quite unlikely at the moment, not enough support/ other commitments. Yea it would be good to meet up and try and get more things going in the area.

PM me of when you want to meet up etc, im free most days.

Cheers

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Nov 26 2006 21:47
guydebordisdead wrote:
Cool, see you guys in 5 years when you realise what a dead-end it is.

We live in a place where politics is pretty dormant - Preston, a handful of us having been bemoaning our lack of influence for some time. But after having 3 people intially invloved in a squatted centre for a month and a half we had numerous articles about us in the local paper, including some blantant oppurtunities to complain about gentrification and lack of local facilities. We had a bonfire night event which was attended by over 200 people, we interacted and got much support from the locals, gave out hundreds of leaflets to the outlaying community, had irregular films for people to come in and watch, had alot of the local kids using the space and most beneficially we activated at least half a dozen people into future politics.

Was maintaining a squat for this short time a dead end?
I dont think so. Alot of effort went in and the cost is still being picked up, but we now have a presence that we havent had before.

The question for the collective thats come out of this process is when are we next doing the same, lessons have been learnt but we had a climpse of some of the potential we can have. I think there are important questions which come out of the process 'What is the space for?', 'Who uses it?' and if you have a tight group then you can achieve quite alot minus the bickering.

But having said that I have come across squats before now that were filled with lifestylers, who happily slagged people off for shopping at the garage! and were drugged out losers by most accounts, so be careful who you form your collective with...but let us know how you get on.
groucho

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Dec 15 2006 06:46

Hey Barcode,sorry I couldn't make today. I don't suppose a squat in Cheam's any good for you is it? I managed to get into that place I was telling you about.

jc2259
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Sep 26 2011 14:46

seems number 7 hillcrest in Elstead fully furnished and empty and will be for a long time.

jc2259
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Sep 26 2011 14:47

and dont forget number 3 hillcrest elstead as well

jc2259
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Sep 26 2011 15:09

number 7 and number 3 hillcrest elstead surrey both empty number 7 wont be occupied for a year or so and number 3 comes back from time to time (if you see a motorbike hes in, very rer though).