Royal wedding - Storm the Castle - Windsor April 2nd

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Feb 10 2005 11:40
Royal wedding - Storm the Castle - Windsor April 2nd

Oppose the Royal wedding. Gather in Windsor on Saturday April 2nd 1pm for actions. Could include march on the castle/rally outside the walls/Stop the City type action/ imaginative autonomous actions. Be there Spread the word.

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Feb 10 2005 13:14

whos getting married?

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Feb 10 2005 13:17

I had a dream a couple of days ago where there was a demo outside buckingham palace and a huge crowd but people couldnt get in and this guy from class war pulled down this little tree cos it was on/near the queens property and then he started to pull down a bigger one and I was getting really angry with him and calling him a prick and telling him it was pointless.

Then I woke up.

I dream of class war. eek cry

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Feb 10 2005 13:45

I assume he's talking about the Charlie-horsey union that's just been announced, to which I respond, who cares if the big-eared prick is getting his rocks off officially or not? I certainly have better things to do with my time, like sleeping.

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Feb 10 2005 13:50

The abolition of the monarchy is the condition for the abolition of royal weddings. Who cares if they get married? It will mean having to listen to poor deluded souls harping on about the monarchy for the next few months, admitedly.

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Feb 10 2005 13:52

It sure would be funny throwing pies at Royals in the name of Al Pieda, though. Mr. T

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Feb 10 2005 13:53

I think anti-monarchy demos are a bit pointless. But I didn't want to slag it off on someone elses thread. If people wanna gather outside windsor castle and wave banners saying they dont like royals fair enough. Just dont think it'll achieve anything.

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Feb 10 2005 14:01

is it a national holiday?

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Feb 10 2005 14:15

Doubt it, just loads of money to be spent on fucking bunting (I hate bunting so MUCH angry) and old farts saying how lovely the bride is even though she has a face like a leprotic basset hound.

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Feb 10 2005 14:16
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Doubt it, just loads of money to be spent on fucking bunting (I hate bunting so MUCH angry) and old farts saying how lovely the bride is even though she has a face like a leprotic basset hound.

Camilla Parker Bowles is hot.

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Feb 10 2005 14:19

roll eyes roll eyes Do the people make the constitution?

OR - does the constitution make the people?

Given the Prince Harry Nazi crap, and the royal finances in the spotlight its worth manifesting opposition to our unelected head of state. Anybody would think the royals will just go away from what the do-nothing bores above are saying...

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Feb 10 2005 14:20

The only hot she could go with is Dog, and that's only becuase she's built from the same ingredients (minced alsatian and pigeon toes mainly).

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Feb 10 2005 14:21

bastards, they could atleast give us a day off. how am I sposed to go to the procession?

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Feb 10 2005 14:23

Oh pleeese, a couple of dozen black garbed troublemakers pinned down by the fuzz will make about as much difference to public opinion on prince charles as me picking my nose. Go leaflet a few dozen houses or start an argument down the pub if you care that much gangster.

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Feb 10 2005 14:30
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Given the Prince Harry Nazi crap, and the royal finances in the spotlight its worth manifesting opposition to our unelected head of state. Anybody would think the royals will just go away from what the do-nothing bores above are saying...

Fuckin hell you showed up here quickly. eek

Anti-monarchy actions are some of the most pointless actions in the whole world. Its not as if the monarchy even do anything except spend a lot of money and generate tourism.

This is exactly the readon why class war sucks. It has no idea what the real concerns of people are and fetishises tradition of protest so much it will go for targets like the monarchy which just aren't important anymore... and the worst thing is they don't even accept their actions as symbolic. "Storm the Palace" roll eyes WHY call it that? EVERYONE knows the palace will not be stormed. If the number of people at the demo reaches triple figures the organisers will be over the moon.

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Feb 10 2005 14:35
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WHY DON'T YOU JUST DO SOMETHING????

??????

what do you mean

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Feb 10 2005 14:40

I think it was sarcasm there 3rd, either that or Jack just writing random words so he can get to 1,000 posts.

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Feb 10 2005 14:40
Jack wrote:
WHY DON'T YOU JUST DO SOMETHING????

roll eyes

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Feb 10 2005 14:49
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Sorry, I forgot about the practical implications for the proletariat that organising against a fucking wedding present. Must make sure not to mock THIS kind of productivity in the future.

See, all ya had to do was make it a bit more blatant.

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Feb 10 2005 15:10

Your next post is your 1000th! Make it count! wink

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Feb 10 2005 20:34
3rdseason wrote:
Anti-monarchy actions are some of the most pointless actions in the whole world.

that['s not entirely true. got £3500 for the one i went on, for 7 hours of being arrested. about three hours of which consisted of a tour of london at the top a a double decker. but unfortunately i doubt the cops are likely to be quite so stupid again.

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Feb 11 2005 01:40
GenerationTerrorist wrote:
3rdseason wrote:
Anti-monarchy actions are some of the most pointless actions in the whole world.

that['s not entirely true. got £3500 for the one i went on, for 7 hours of being arrested. about three hours of which consisted of a tour of london at the top a a double decker. but unfortunately i doubt the cops are likely to be quite so stupid again.

Good point. How much of that went on legal fees? (just out of interest) smile

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Feb 11 2005 08:04
VICTORSERGE wrote:
Oppose the Royal wedding. Gather in Windsor on Saturday April 2nd 1pm for actions. Could include march on the castle/rally outside the walls/Stop the City type action/ imaginative autonomous actions. Be there Spread the word.

The monarchy is at the top of the pyramid of the class system. It matters (at least in this country)

Getting rid of the royals would open up a million and one possibilites for political change in the UK (as an example where would it leave people in Northern Ireland if there was no monarch to be loyal to?) and, lets be honest, the chance of aboloshing the monarchy, in our lifetimes exists, unlike some of the changes people debate on these boards.

Virtually every opinion poll in recent years shows a solid block of people (often as high as 30-40%) who wish to abolish the monarchy. These views are not represented, articulated or even mentioned by political parties from Labour and the Lib Dems through to Respect. Do Anarchists want to continue this conspiracy of silence?

Once the Queen goes, if we do nothing we really are stuck with King Charles and Queen Camilla for a few years, then its William and has mates from the Tetbury hunt for 50 years.

And all that's irrelevant?

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Feb 11 2005 08:50

Yes.

Power is centred on parliament, the majority shareholders of capital and the chairmen of the ftse 100. The crown's power is illusory, at most they can dissolve parliament and it's widely acknowledged that if they did that the crown would last no longer than the time it takes to throw someone out of a palace.

They are a complete fucking irrelevance to everybody except the people they influence through their control of land and capital, and that isn't even top 50 in the country any more, meaning there are at the very least 50 people more worth getting exercised about.

Most Europeans have got shot of their monarchies, as have the Yanks, and it has made not the blindest bit of difference to inequality or class division.

This is basic shit, I don't understand why there's this blank spot about it.

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Feb 11 2005 12:24
3rdseason wrote:
GenerationTerrorist wrote:
3rdseason wrote:
Anti-monarchy actions are some of the most pointless actions in the whole world.

that['s not entirely true. got £3500 for the one i went on, for 7 hours of being arrested. about three hours of which consisted of a tour of london at the top a a double decker. but unfortunately i doubt the cops are likely to be quite so stupid again.

Good point. How much of that went on legal fees? (just out of interest) :)

Nada. The filth had to pay costs, on top of the £3,500 damages. Fortunately some of those arrested were eligible for legal aid, so none of us had to pay anything up front.

Probably the most productive action I've been involved with.

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Feb 11 2005 21:07
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3rdseason wrote:
gangster wrote:
Given the Prince Harry Nazi crap, and the royal finances in the spotlight its worth manifesting opposition to our unelected head of state. Anybody would think the royals will just go away from what the do-nothing bores above are saying...

Fuckin hell you showed up here quickly. eek

Anti-monarchy actions are some of the most pointless actions in the whole world. Its not as if the monarchy even do anything except spend a lot of money and generate tourism.

This is exactly the readon why class war sucks. It has no idea what the real concerns of people are and fetishises tradition of protest so much it will go for targets like the monarchy which just aren't important anymore... and the worst thing is they don't even accept their actions as symbolic. "Storm the Palace" roll eyes WHY call it that? EVERYONE knows the palace will not be stormed. If the number of people at the demo reaches triple figures the organisers will be over the moon.

someone has hacked 3rd's account eek

fuck me what what or who has got into 3rd?

or is it a secret state conspiracy like what happend eot gangster on Urban75?

No its me. Did I post something you actually agreed with or something? neutral

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Feb 11 2005 21:11
PaulMarsh wrote:

The monarchy is at the top of the pyramid of the class system. It matters (at least in this country)... where would it leave people in Northern Ireland if there was no monarch to be loyal to... opinion poll (often as high as 30-40%) Once the Queen goes... King Charles and Queen Camilla... William...

And all that's irrelevant?

Yeah pretty much so.

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Feb 11 2005 22:05

I disagree, but I'll be in France, so what do I care (council houses for royaly campaign) ? Parasites.

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Feb 11 2005 22:53

What a pile of absolute bollocks. "Storm the Castle" - yeah whatever mate. I give some skinny white student anarchist trying to storm it 5 seconds before they fire 17 rounds into him and he'll be dead and the movement will probably be better off as a whole.

That said, when the Queen visited Colchester we did a bit of leafleting and disrupted a walkabout with chanting. But that was different...

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Feb 12 2005 00:28
PaulMarsh wrote:

... where would it leave people in Northern Ireland if there was no monarch to be loyal to...

"Storm the Castle" - substitutionism and stuntist crap. Sure it might be good for a laugh but its gonna achieve fuck all.

But if truth be told I'm only worried that me and all the other people who live in Northern Ireland would be lost without the Royals. I mean what would there be left to talk about, bitch about and fight about? But then if we're all loyal why would we be fighting anyway, eh Paul?

We'd all pretty much be in the same shit monarch or not - though I do believe they should be forced to work in sewerage treatment post revolution.

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Feb 12 2005 14:54

Yes the royals are irrelevant, but I do like to make a show of opposing them whenever they're near me. And I don't think that opposing royalty is substitutionist crap - they do have a fair bit of power, and if it involved people without brilliant politics it could well be consciousness raising IMO.

Agree with Revol68 w.r.t. loyalism, which is far more complex than many in our movement seem to appreciate.

But yeah - wouldn't it be fantastic viewing if after the revolution we have public viewing of royalty being shot be firing squads...

Hmm, maybe that's just me, but I love to think of such things when life gets me down.

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