"Any retail workers out there?"

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Bob Ebay
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Jul 11 2006 10:29
"Any retail workers out there?"

Reading the Anarchist Education Workers thread I wondered if there were any IWW members working in retail. I have only just joined and to be honest the rest of my workmates are still in USDAW but if they keep selling us out I am sure I can convince them to join us. wink

If there are we could have a national conference?

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Jul 11 2006 10:31

Maybe not so local, try the www.iww.org website for a link to the retail workers dot org site (if it's still going).

The UK ROC IWW did have for a while, as it had organised a co-op shop in the west. Post something up on the internal/external (IWW) forum for more info.

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Jul 11 2006 10:35

I wouldn't want to give the impression that the national conference is just for IWW members. Anarchists would be welcome as well.

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Jul 11 2006 10:56

few retail workers in SolFed as well, but not enough so far to get anything in terms of network etc off the ground.

SolFeds industrial news sheet Catalyst carries some retail related articles from time to time, and so does Freedom.

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Jul 11 2006 12:17
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few retail workers in SolFed as well, but not enough so far to get anything in terms of network etc off the ground.

SolFeds industrial news sheet Catalyst carries some retail related articles from time to time, and so does Freedom.

What about the other anarchist groups like AFed, Class War and the WSM . I heard that the WSM had some members in Dunnes (is it? some supermarket chain)

Also I know they aren't popular with some people on here and I haven't seen any up here but do any of the Womblies work in retail?

I hope there are some more retail mebers in the IWW otherwise I am going to look abit foolish at work. sad

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Jul 11 2006 12:20
Bob Ebay wrote:
Also I know they aren't popular with some people on here and I haven't seen any up here but do any of the Womblies work in retail?

Here's a picture of them & their chums in Tesco's a couple of years back:-

but I don't know if any of them work, in retail or otherwise. confused

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Jul 11 2006 12:40
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Also I know they aren't popular with some people on here and I haven't seen any up here but do any of the Womblies work in retail?

Here's a picture of them & their chums in Tesco's a couple of years back:-

but I don't know if any of them work, in retail or otherwise. confused

I am surprised nobody took exception to them. I am not sure if all the mess they create would be welcome to most staff.

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Jul 11 2006 13:28
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You'd think that, wouldn't you. neutral

confused confused confused

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Jul 11 2006 15:53
Bob Ebay wrote:
I am surprised nobody took exception to them. I am not sure if all the mess they create would be welcome to most staff.

It was stupid, but from what I've heard, the staff were quite glad of an opportunity to sit off for a minute or two while security tried to escort them out.

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Jul 11 2006 16:08
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It was agreement.

soz

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Jul 11 2006 16:26

Before all the pricks respond.

There wasn't any "mess made" all the commotion was from the dirty filth. The action was followed a week later by 6 of us leafletting all the workers and shoppers at Tescos (which was in Hackney). People were very interested to say the least in what we had to say and we won around a few pissed off people as well. Following that in August after two workers in dublin tesco depot was sacked we organised a solidarity picket, again in Tescos at Hackney, attended by around 25-30 people. The banner read "solidarity with sacked Tesco worker". Again we leafletted shoppers and workers, with two workers sneaking out from work to tell us that most of the staff support what we're doing.

what a mess roll eyes

Also WOMBLES has pretty much disolved itself and people are involved in a variety of new political projects. If I get this job as a sales assistant then I'll join your initiative.

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Jul 11 2006 17:06

Bob you could check, and contribute to, this networking thread:

http://libcom.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8465

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Jul 11 2006 20:14
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all the commotion was from the dirty filth.

Who exactly do you mean by that? I mean, do you really wanna attack people's bathing habits? wink

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If I get this job as a sales assistant then I'll join your initiative.

So you're no longer questioning the credentials of anarchists who work then? neutral

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Jul 11 2006 20:22

Alan, the small occasions I've met you you have made the impression to me of being a snobby lifestylist politico who assumes more than he has experienced, that doesn't have any passion what so ever for changing anything and are more concerned with being with the "cool in crowd" of Libcom.

Now go and ask Jack what all the big words mean and come back when your seriously gonna engage with whats what.

Raw

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p.s. didn't you grass up a shoplifter when you were working in retail? A little birdie told me. wink

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Jul 11 2006 20:29
Caiman del Barrio wrote:
raw wrote:
all the commotion was from the dirty filth.

Who exactly do you mean by that? I mean, do you really wanna attack people's bathing habits? wink

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If I get this job as a sales assistant then I'll join your initiative.

So you're no longer questioning the credentials of anarchists who work then? neutral

What is with all of these attacks on raw? I meet him when I was in London at some do to celebrate the publication of a biography of Sylvia Pankhurst in Turkish. He wasn't the complete 'hippy' that I had been led to believe that the Wombles were from Libcom. There was a class base to his politics. That is not to say that I don't fundamentally disagree with them, but we sat, had a beer, and discussed them. I am sure that he disagrees with me too. My point is that his politics aren't usually addressed. People just throw insults at him. I think that he is wrong, and that his politics represent a theroreticisation of two decades of low levels of working class struggle. I am prepared to argue that with him, but comments about his 'bathing habits' are just crass.

Devrim

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Jul 11 2006 20:35
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Alan, the small occasions you have made the impression to me of being a snobby lifestylist politico

Yeah, I'm the lifestylist. That's it.

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who assumes more than he has experienced, that doesn't have any passion what so ever for changing anything

Of course you wouldn't be assuming anything in that statement would you? You're right though, I simply couldn't give a fuck.

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and are more concerned with being with the "cool in crowd" of Libcom.

You think Libcomistas are cool? Jeez, what fucking planet are you on? John wears skinny ties for fuck's sake.

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Now go and ask Jack what all the big words mean and come back when your seriously gonna engage with whats what.

If I do will you answer my question about your stance on anarchists getting employment? If your memory needs refreshing I can dig out the thread in which you declared anarchists shouldn't work cos they should be too busy organising empty, spectacular subcultural events.

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p.s. didn't you grass up a shoplifter when you were working in retail? A little birdie told me. :wink:

By "a little birdie", do you mean me? Cos I'm not a girl, and I don't think you should refer to your female comrades in such a way. tongue

And yeah, my supervisor did once call the cops when two squaddies started banging on my shop's door and making physical threats at 3am. Is that "wrong" according to your ill-conceived, self-gratifying dogma Raw? Please tell me, I'm absolutely intrigued. Honest.

raw
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Jul 11 2006 20:58

People need to sell their labour time in exchange for a wage so they can pay for things that they need. I've worked, I prefer (shock horror!) not to, I will do my utmost to avoid disciplined work and I prefer to occupy my life time with the things I want to do and hang out with people I want to hang out with and experience and learn about the world.

My point (and don't fucking repost that old thread again!) was that our aim is to destroy disciplined work, we are anti-work, we should find ways out work individually and collectively or if we can't to make our time at work as political useful to communicating and propagating ideas (like in any other social environment).

And passion sometimes means shouting and saying the right things in the wrong way.

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Jul 11 2006 22:05
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I've worked, I prefer (shock horror!) not to, I will do my utmost to avoid disciplined work and I prefer to occupy my life time with the things I want to do and hang out with people I want to hang out with and experience and learn about the world.

I do work, and have done since I was 16. That makes 22 years of shit, more than half of my life. Of course I would prefer not to, but most people don't have a choice.

Devrim

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Jul 11 2006 22:23

Thats obvious, many people don't have a choice....gradually I have less of a choice but my point still stands I, you and hundreds of million of workers prefer not to work in the way they do. If you had a way to stop working and do what you want to do with your time wouldn't you?

Though in my situation it means living off £55 a week it means a lifestyle change to someone on £25,000 a year.

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Jul 17 2006 23:44
raw wrote:
Before all the pricks respond.

There wasn't any "mess made" all the commotion was from the dirty filth. The action was followed a week later by 6 of us leafletting all the workers and shoppers at Tescos (which was in Hackney). People were very interested to say the least in what we had to say and we won around a few pissed off people as well. Following that in August

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after two workers in dublin tesco depot was sacked

we organised a solidarity picket, again in Tescos at Hackney, attended by around 25-30 people. The banner read "solidarity with sacked Tesco worker". Again we leafletted shoppers and workers, with two workers sneaking out from work to tell us that most of the staff support what we're doing.

what a mess roll eyes

Also WOMBLES has pretty much disolved itself and people are involved in a variety of new political projects. If I get this job as a sales assistant then I'll join your initiative.

I assume that one of the workers wasn't an anarchist then? Wouldn't it have been better to have supported both rather than just the one who was polltically on side?

Which shop is it that you have gone for a job?

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Jul 18 2006 07:56
Bob Ebay wrote:
raw wrote:
Before all the pricks respond.

There wasn't any "mess made" all the commotion was from the dirty filth. The action was followed a week later by 6 of us leafletting all the workers and shoppers at Tescos (which was in Hackney). People were very interested to say the least in what we had to say and we won around a few pissed off people as well. Following that in August

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after two workers in dublin tesco depot was sacked

we organised a solidarity picket, again in Tescos at Hackney, attended by around 25-30 people. The banner read "solidarity with sacked Tesco worker". Again we leafletted shoppers and workers, with two workers sneaking out from work to tell us that most of the staff support what we're doing.

what a mess roll eyes

Also WOMBLES has pretty much disolved itself and people are involved in a variety of new political projects. If I get this job as a sales assistant then I'll join your initiative.

I assume that one of the workers wasn't an anarchist then? Wouldn't it have been better to have supported both rather than just the one who was polltically on side?

Which shop is it that you have gone for a job?

What?! What are you on mate. It was a typo, I said two workers were sacked and then stated the banner slogan, though mistakenly left out the plural on "worker"(s). But surely no one would have jumped to that conclusion that OBVIOUSLY we are such pure anarchists to be supporting just anarchist workers. We were supporting them because a call was made for solidarity and a day of action was announced (in which 6 Tesco's were picketed up and down the country).

Good grief! roll eyes

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Jul 18 2006 08:54
raw wrote:
Before all the pricks respond.

There wasn't any "mess made" all the commotion was from the dirty filth. The action was followed a week later by 6 of us leafletting all the workers and shoppers at Tescos (which was in Hackney). People were very interested to say the least in what we had to say and we won around a few pissed off people as well. Following that in August after two workers in dublin tesco depot was sacked we organised a solidarity picket, again in Tescos at Hackney, attended by around 25-30 people. The banner read "solidarity with sacked Tesco worker". Again we leafletted shoppers and workers, with two workers sneaking out from work to tell us that most of the staff support what we're doing.

what a mess roll eyes

Lies! Anyone who was there know's that 3 people dressed in pink with a drum were soundly thrashed by the shoppers, workers then people of Hackney at large. Shouts of, 'how dare you interrupt me when i'm selling my labour!' and 'lifestylist scum!' rang from Finsbury to Clapton. The only leaflet there, written on bog roll with a piece of charcoal read, ''Anarky 4 ever! fuck working, drop out! Sell ketamine!''.

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PS bob ebay is trolling 8)