Occupy and ILWU

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Mar 20 2012 16:13

Those same people were declaring it a victory without having read the terms of the contract, and now they're acting surprised that the ILWU basically agreed to another sell-out?! The steady erosion of the gains made by organized labor in the 1930s continues to be presided over by the unions...

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Mar 20 2012 20:16

You can download the file with the new ILWU-EGT Collective Bargaining Agreement here:

http://www.mediafire.com/?c8v2fhkwr8cab03

It's totally awful. Calling it a betrayal and sell out would be understatements. It's basically an anti-union union contract. Sadly, as has been pointed out, the same people who claimed that Occupy brought about this "victory" are now denouncing the union leadership for allowing it to happen, in true Trotskyist boilerplate fashion. Hypocrites!

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Mar 21 2012 03:14

all along the way various levels of the ILWU bureaucracy expressed their squeamishness, their unwillingness to fight to the finish, their willingness to cut a deal. This had been expressed that night where there was the fight in Seattle between local ILWU leaders and, on other hand, dissidents in ILWU local 10 and Occupy. That was obviously no accidental matter. nonetheless, i'd like to know if and why local 21 members voted for the contract.

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Mar 21 2012 05:00

One thing I do respect the ILWU for is seeing their contracts as the minimum agreement and one that can be bettered with on the "floor" organizing which are attempted to be incorporated into the next round of contract discussions. The "pro-contract" ILWUs I've had contact recognize that it's crap but see it as a hold-your-nose victory - they're in the door, now they can build. Hard to see, but best of luck, I guess, but considering the efforts to break the west coast agreement, I can see the argument.

While in principle I agree with much of what the Organize/ILWU 10 bloc says, I'm beginning to feel pretty manipulated by them.

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Apr 8 2012 03:52

Thanks to fnbrill for this piece of news:

TDN.com wrote:

EGT grain terminal conveyor tower catches fire

Firefighters put out a blaze in the conveyor system tower at the EGT grain terminal dock at the Port of Longview on Saturday morning after a three-hour fight.

According to Cowlitz 2 Fire and Rescue, the fire started just before 9 a.m. in the conveyor system above a ship that was being loaded with wheat. A bit of burning debris fell into the hull of Panama-registered freighter called Navios Gemini S, but the ship was not damaged, Cowlitz 2 Assistant Chief Alan Headley said. No one was injured, he said.

Firefighters had to climb up the tower, which stands more than 100 feet high, to extinguish the fire, Headley said.

“It was a very labor intensive operation,” he said, adding that firefighters cleared the scene about 2 p.m.

About 40 firefighters from Cowlitz 2, Longview Fire, Woodland Fire, Columbia River Fire and Rescue and Clark County responded to the blaze.

The U.S. Coast Guard, U.S. Department of Agriculture and state Department of Ecology also responded to assess damage, Headley said. No grain or contaminants spilled into the river, he said.

“It’s going to slow their ship-loading operations a little bit, but it’s nothing that can’t be repaired,” Headley said.

EGT CEO Larry Clarke said Saturday afternoon that the company has not determined the damage cost. The terminal has two other ship loaders, but the company will keep them offline until investigators determine what caused the fire.

“We’ve got to clean it up, then investigate it, and we’ll see what was damaged,” Clarke said, adding that he expects to keep the loaders offline for days, not weeks.

The $200 million EGT terminal loaded grain on the first ship Feb. 7. A lengthy labor dispute with the International Longshore and Warehouse Union delayed the opening of the terminal, which first unloaded rail cars last September. The two sides reached a settlement in January.

From: TDN.com

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Apr 8 2012 17:06
Hieronymous wrote:
Thanks to fnbrill for this piece of news:
TDN.com wrote:

EGT grain terminal conveyor tower catches fire

Firefighters put out a blaze in the conveyor system tower at the EGT grain terminal dock at the Port of Longview on Saturday morning after a three-hour fight.

According to Cowlitz 2 Fire and Rescue, the fire started just before 9 a.m. in the conveyor system above a ship that was being loaded with wheat. A bit of burning debris fell into the hull of Panama-registered freighter called Navios Gemini S, but the ship was not damaged, Cowlitz 2 Assistant Chief Alan Headley said. No one was injured, he said.

Firefighters had to climb up the tower, which stands more than 100 feet high, to extinguish the fire, Headley said.

“It was a very labor intensive operation,” he said, adding that firefighters cleared the scene about 2 p.m.

About 40 firefighters from Cowlitz 2, Longview Fire, Woodland Fire, Columbia River Fire and Rescue and Clark County responded to the blaze.

The U.S. Coast Guard, U.S. Department of Agriculture and state Department of Ecology also responded to assess damage, Headley said. No grain or contaminants spilled into the river, he said.

“It’s going to slow their ship-loading operations a little bit, but it’s nothing that can’t be repaired,” Headley said.

EGT CEO Larry Clarke said Saturday afternoon that the company has not determined the damage cost. The terminal has two other ship loaders, but the company will keep them offline until investigators determine what caused the fire.

“We’ve got to clean it up, then investigate it, and we’ll see what was damaged,” Clarke said, adding that he expects to keep the loaders offline for days, not weeks.

The $200 million EGT terminal loaded grain on the first ship Feb. 7. A lengthy labor dispute with the International Longshore and Warehouse Union delayed the opening of the terminal, which first unloaded rail cars last September. The two sides reached a settlement in January.

From: TDN.com

Grain dust (as with most dust) is pretty combustable. That's why you see those horrendus grain tower explosions at times. Perhaps there was a lot of friction or someting to cause this.

How many ships have been loaded thus far?

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Apr 8 2012 15:55

Sorry, duplicate posting --- deleted.