Haringey refuse collectors on indefinite strike -- picket

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Aug 2 2006 13:22

Yeah Whipps Cross. The 56 from Angel/Dalston Central/Clapton Roundabout goes there as well plus a few other buses. Should be there until 6pm today afaik, not sure what their plan is after that - the woman mentioned Thursday about getting a decision so it might not be on tomorrow necessarily. Not at home, but there's a phone number on the leaflet for the Unison branch so could pm anyone who wants to check before they go down there. Today it's definitely happening.

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Aug 2 2006 14:29
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Wouldn't the vehicles be shorthand for "workers"?

No, AFAIK I didn't go to the picket embarrassed, what they want is to reduce the amount of vehicles and increase the amount of hours worked by the men. You can also put extra men onto a truck and then increase the speed they are supposed to work at. No one will get fired immediately, but I'd imagine in a year or so they'll probably try to cut the workforce and increase the hours again if they get away with this.

Yeah that was what I was thinking. Possibly they could just cut the workforce by non-replacement of those who leave.

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Aug 5 2006 09:53

i went down there yesterday morning to say howdy.

there were a fair few of them and they were all pretty sound (although one had a copy of socialist wanker wall)

anyway, apparently it's going to be a good few weeks before anything happens, because their general manager is refusing to negotiate at all. apparently he was demoted from the central office because he was shit, and is now trying to prove himself worthy of being reinstated by standiing up to the unions. what a prick.

this is his email address: dougtaylor@haringeyaccord.com

go for it spambots, go for it!!!

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Aug 5 2006 09:56

and it looks like they're getting scabs out to do the rounds for them: http://www.haringeyaccord.com/easyview.asp?recid=%20261

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Aug 5 2006 10:45

Nice one ftony. We may well have news up and runnung here in the next few days so if you fancy writing something up for that that'd be great.

Any news from your end coffeemachine?

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Aug 5 2006 11:27

aye went down too to put my two penneth worth in. There was only one guy there who seemed to be packing up for the day, but the mood he felt was 'quite solid'.

Interesting set up.

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Aug 5 2006 12:29

Hi

If this strike puts Haringey Accord out of business would that be a “good thing”? Or does anyone think that it can’t happen?

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Aug 5 2006 12:52
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If this strike puts Haringey Accord out of business would that be a “good thing”? Or does anyone think that it can’t happen?

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I find it unlikely that it will.
Haringey will continue to pay them and they won't be paying strikers so I think it might actually increase their profits. They'll probably charge the council extra to clear up what has built up. (It won't be in bins any more, so it'll be classed as fly tipping)

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Aug 5 2006 14:00

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Haringey will continue to pay them

You'd have thought the local tax payers would have something to say about that. I think that’s worth verifying, Jef.

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I think it might actually increase their profits.

In which case, the strikers are doomed, unless all they wanted was some unpaid leave.

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Aug 5 2006 14:07

Yeah I would've thought the council would have clauses in the contracts making payment subject to the work actually being done. Very unlikely they'll be getting paid now.

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Aug 5 2006 14:25
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Yeah I would've thought the council would have clauses in the contracts making payment subject to the work actually being done. Very unlikely they'll be getting paid now.

I'm sure they do but these things tend not to be enforced particularly well.
I doubt they'd have stopped getting paid immeidately, unlike the strikers.

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Aug 5 2006 14:27

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I'm sure they do but these things tend not to be enforced particularly well.

Purchasing officers are working class too. Perhaps they might be “especially diligent” this month in solidarity with their blue collar comrades. This is the terrain of contemporary class conflict that we must master.

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Aug 6 2006 08:22
jef costello wrote:
Lazy Riser wrote:
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If this strike puts Haringey Accord out of business would that be a “good thing”? Or does anyone think that it can’t happen?

Love

LR

I find it unlikely that it will.
Haringey will continue to pay them and they won't be paying strikers so I think it might actually increase their profits. They'll probably charge the council extra to clear up what has built up. (It won't be in bins any more, so it'll be classed as fly tipping)

i sort of agree with jef here. but i think the economic strength of haringey accord is that they have their fingers in a lot of pies, so they have more stable income elsewhere.

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Aug 13 2006 14:09

Accord have drafted in temporary agency workers in an attempt to break the strike. This monday (14 August) will be the first time they'll going out on the roads, the Haringey binmen have asked for as many people as possible to go down this monday morning to support the strike and to try and persuade the agency workers not to take the dustcarts out.

Be good if people made the effort.

Picket outside the main gates - 8.30am
Ashley Road depot
Ashley Road
N17 9AZ
(nearest tube: Tottenham Hale)

If people can't make it in the morning there's a general assembly at 6pm the same evening to update, if people want to go down and get involved.

Background info:
http://www.tgwu.org.uk/Templates/News.asp?NodeID=92705&int1stParentNodeID=42438&int2ndParentNodeID=42438&Action=Display
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/5257136.stm
http://www.tottenhamjournal.co.uk/content/haringey/tottenhamjournal/news/story.aspx?brand=TWGJOnline&category=news&tBrand=northlondon24&tCategory=newstwgj&itemid=WeED10%20Aug%202006%2013%3A10%3A42%3A293
http://www.haringeyaccord.com/easyview.asp?recid=%20262

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Aug 13 2006 15:54

balls i can't make it.

but i'll send it round lists

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Aug 13 2006 16:16

Hmmm I gotta get to work but I can get in a bit later than usual tomorrow so I might be able to make this.

Just to clarify Coffeemachine where and how did the workers request people to go? (Cos I've been to a picket before where some politicos said there was a callout but none of the workers seemed to know about it...)

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Aug 13 2006 19:13

came from steve fletcher, senior shop steward, when i met up with him on friday afternoon after he'd be negotiating with management all day. He's happy for anyone and everyone to come down. The others, to be fair, didn't seem that concerned (not convinced by empty promises perhaps) although they were happy enough to have people down on the picketline when i was there.

The picket actually starts at 6.30 if people are keen. I suggested 8.30 as a reasonable time for visiting support. Up to you when you go.

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Aug 13 2006 22:31

HSG have also forwarded about the picket on monday. It'll be good to have people there but it'll be key to have people there at 6 in case some kind of blockade can be organised against the scabs.

Haringey Council have distributed a leaflet saying that Accord have a contract and they have to, and wil, honour it.

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Aug 14 2006 09:00

this morning the binmen voted (28 to 16) to go back to work, accepting the management's amended offer of taking just one dustcart off the road & paying an extended 'clear up' payment.

Don't know the fine details, a victory of sorts i suppose.

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Aug 14 2006 23:17

I know you don't like copy and pastes but I thought you guys would like to see this:

Outcome of Haringey Refuse Collection Workers Strike Against Cuts
Report, 14th August 2006

On Monday 14th August, Haringey's domestic refuse collection workers voted 26-18 to return to work after 2 weeks solidly out on strike against cuts in the service, and over the related health and safety issues. The close decision came as a result of negotiations with management during a picket of the Ashley Rd Council depot (Tottenham Hale N17) in which the workers were backed by around 20 supporters.

The workers, all members of the Transport and General Workers Union, agreed to accept a substantial climbdown by Accord who had originally wanted to unilaterally cut 2 trucks from the domestic collection fleet. The workers had refused Accord's original offer of £1,450 each to 'compensate' for the cuts. Accord - after seeing the long and solid strike, the determination of the strikers, the effective daily picketing at the depot and the general public support for the workers - offered a 'compromise' deal in which one of the waste collection trucks would be cut instead - with the decision on whether it will be from the trade or domestic fleet still to be negotiated. On that basis the workers agreed to return to work immediately to start clearing the backlog of uncollected waste around Haringey. The workers will continue to monitor the situation through their own strike committee .

Many of the workers at the picket were very pleased about the public support they received * - they said they felt this had strengthened their hand. They wanted to pass on their thanks. Some clearly felt that, despite their loss of wages, they could have achieved more by staying out longer - especially as similar issues apply across the whole waste collection service. It should be noted that Accord have also made cuts recently to the street sweeping and cleansing fleet which the workers in that section have been unhappy about but had not so far felt able to take action over.

The Council has been pressurising Accord to make 'efficiency savings' each year, including 6% this year. They had supported Accord's proposed cuts, and had urged the staff to take the financial 'compensation' offered. What in fact is really needed is improvements to the borough's waste collection service. However, in considering 'savings', Accord apparently hadn't considered cutting its ever-growing number of management posts or its profits (£53m in 2005 according to the Haringey Advertiser).

Like with other public services, the pressure for cuts is likely to continue unless adequate resources are provided by central government - it is up to residents in general and public sector staff in particular, to demand the resources that Haringey residents need.

* On Friday 11th August about 25 people - residents and trades unionists - had taken part in a protest at the Civic Centre. The aim was to show opposition to the proposed cuts and support for the workforce, despite the short term inconvenience to the public. Many participants brought bags of uncollected rubbish from home and dumped them on the steps in front of the building. Placards had included: 'Improvements Not Cuts', 'Support the Refuse Workers - striking for health and safety', 'Accord Is Rubbish', 'Accord Shareholders Rake In The Profits - Health & Safety In The Bin'.

Report by Dave Morris, Secretary of the Haringey Federation of Residents Associations