Any Amicus members out there?

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Jun 15 2005 08:39
Any Amicus members out there?

Well, we're currently having a ballot at work about whether there should be a recognised trade union. If the result is a YES, then Amicus will be it. So I joined the other day.

Any other Amicus members out there, or other voluntary sector workers who fancy doing a bit of "networking"?

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Jun 15 2005 11:11
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Well, we're currently having a ballot at work about whether there should be a recognised trade union. If the result is a YES, then Amicus will be it. So I joined the other day.

Any other Amicus members out there, or other voluntary sector workers who fancy doing a bit of "networking"?

It's taken a while, b.

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Jun 15 2005 11:57

It certainly has. roll eyes

And management, under the guise of being nice & liberal, agreed to have the ballot "voluntarily," meaning that they're not legally bound to accept the result, and have set an additional hurdle to the one contained in employment law.

As the law stands, there has to be a 40% turnout, with a majority of those for a union. Management (bless 'em) are saying that this isn't enough -- that they want 40% of all those entitled to vote to vote YES before they'll recognise. And of course, this can't be legally challenged, 'cause they're having the ballot voluntarily. roll eyes

This said, it's been a useful process in that it's brought people interested in union organisation out of the woodwork.

Ah well, we'll see. Ballotting period ends on 22 June.

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Jun 15 2005 14:02
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It certainly has. roll eyes

And management, under the guise of being nice & liberal, agreed to have the ballot "voluntarily," meaning that they're not legally bound to accept the result, and have set an additional hurdle to the one contained in employment law.

As the law stands, there has to be a 40% turnout, with a majority of those for a union. Management (bless 'em) are saying that this isn't enough -- that they want 40% of all those entitled to vote to vote YES before they'll recognise. And of course, this can't be legally challenged, 'cause they're having the ballot voluntarily. roll eyes

This said, it's been a useful process in that it's brought people interested in union organisation out of the woodwork.

Ah well, we'll see. Ballotting period ends on 22 June.

The joys of organising at work... a big GL, to you an your fellow workers!

Solid.

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Jun 15 2005 22:01

the taxi driver of the guy i care for is in it. I went to a poetry evening this evening and learnt the celery produces pheremones.

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Jun 15 2005 22:16
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celery produces pheremones

aww, I never knew that.

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Jun 16 2005 11:02
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the taxi driver of the guy i care for is in it. I went to a poetry evening this evening and learnt the celery produces pheremones.

Depends where you put them? grin

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Jun 27 2005 11:50

Yaaaaay!

91% in favour of union recognition. (Yep.... 91%). Based on a 64% turnout, which is fucking good for a union recognition ballot.

I know, I know..... it's Amicus, not the CNT (or even the IWW wink ), but it's better than nowt. tongue

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Jun 27 2005 14:18
the button wrote:
(or even the IWW wink )

Cos the IWW is just another lefty propaganda group... wink Quick someone call Raoul V! (or revol)

Good on youze! B

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Jul 1 2005 09:55
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Well, we're currently having a ballot at work about whether there should be a recognised trade union. If the result is a YES, then Amicus will be it. So I joined the other day.

Any other Amicus members out there, or other voluntary sector workers who fancy doing a bit of "networking"?

One thing Amicus grassroots members could do is raise their disgust at the treatment of the Manchester Electricians, and the complicity of AMICUS leaders in this shabby treatment.

Here is a copy of an email I sent to an Amicus representative I know locally in Nelson this morning. Thought you'd be interested Mr Button.

tarara Mitch

Dear .........,

Hope all is well with yourself, I caught a picture of yourself and ....... in the Leader the other week planting a tree - great work in the community you are doing.

I'm writing here to yourself, as a well known Amicus trade union representative in Burnley & Nelson, wondering if yourself and other trade union members (including ....... particularly) are aware of the Manchester Electricians Campaign against Carillion (construction contractors) and DAF.

http://www.labournet.net/ukunion/0403/daf1.html

This link is a good summary of the campaign so far, and more information can be gleaned from the Burnley Voice web forum at:

http://oogleboogle.proboards23.com/index.cgi?board=Casualisation&action=display&thread=1095338205&page=3

(look particularly at page 2 and 3 of this thread).

Both the Northern 'Cowboy' and Northern Voices have been reporting on this campaign from the start, and I will glady send you copies of these for more information if you email me back with your address.

I think many AMICUS grassroots members may not be aware of how their own union is behaving in this campaign, so my point in drawing this to your attention is to hopefully raise awareness amongst some of your members. If I was an Amicus member (or a T&G or GMB member - pending merger I am well aware of), I would be up in arms against the behaviour of Amicus union leaders in this campaign.

Bryan Bamford on the Burnley Voice has stated,

"What is particularly shocking is the involvement of an AMICUS official at the meeting with Carillion/Daf to, according to one of the Daf directors, help Carillion gey rid of these Manchester electricians".

Blacklists are afoot, and I wondered if you would perhaps raise this campaign at your next Amicus meeting. I know that grassroots members will be disgusted at these course of events.

I look forward to hearing from you, and any support you may wish to offer. Amicus members, I'd suggest, should be worried about the behaviour of 'leaders' in their own union.

This is selling out ALL trade union grassroots members.

I very much look forward to your response on this, or any assistance you can give.

Very best wishes.

Mitch

IWW member

National Group on Homeworking member

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Jul 1 2005 11:59

Cheers for that, Mitch. I'll mention this to my dad, too. He was a sparks (retired now) & I know he's kept up his Amicus membership & still takes an interest.

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Jul 25 2005 22:21

Interesting, I'd like to talk to you sometime (button person).