Anarchist Statement on London Bombings

Emailed around Preston SolFed and everyone agrees that we should add our Local's name to this statement.

who is it being sent to?

nice one kroppers

I originally put this on the other thread, but can you please add the red party to the statement?

The rest of Manchester AF also agree. So if you want to add us too, then do so.

Thankyou

Yeah. Good statement, as I said somewhere else.

Where is it being sent?

Norwich Anarchists would like to add our name please.

Where is the statement being released? Is it going out as a press release?

already been translated into dutch and circulated

respect

Thats great.

Could ye's add Just Books Collective Belfast and Organise! to that as I mentioned in the original suggestion.

Also as to where its going perhaps libcom could post to national london based media and locally based groups could send it to local media? We'd be happy to send it as a press release locally.

In solidarity;

It would be frankly bizarre if South London SolFed didn't endorse this statement, so (speaking as the Secretary ), I say could you add our names to this, please?

If the rest of 'em don't like it, they can oust me at the next meeting.

This release has been sent to most of the national dailies and big press agencies, anyone else can email/forward to as many people as possible...

http://oogleboogle.proboards23.com/index.cgi?board=P0LITICAL&action=display&thread=1120753683

Thread begun in support of statement on the Burnley Voice Forum.

Burnley Voice (those of us that aren't away at the moment) support this statement.

Best Mitch

You can add manc AF separately if you are trying to put as many names as possible on it, although that's a bit swpish, isn't it. Otherwise leave it as AF as a whole.

National AF are already on so not really worth it

Check out the moron comments posted on IMCUK:

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/07/317247.html

That last statement is particularly fucking pathetic: -

All together now....

One....

Two...

Three....

Cock.

Edited to add: unless it's Wayne, of course, in which case it's his best yet.

If it was Wayne, and it was any other situation, it would be one of his best. But I'm sure he wouldn't do a pisstake on something like that.

The comment that begins "What a pathetic statement" is fucking apalling too. Apparently we're simply repeating the bourgeois propaganda by implying that it was carried out by Islamicists. Of course, what we should have said is that it was the CIA really. Jesus fucking Christ.

I wish IMC would show a bit more responsibility and ban cunts like that. Fuck it actually, I wish IMC would just get shut down. It serves absolutely no useful purpose whatsoever.

The ZACF have published a statement on Anarkismo

http://www.anarkismo.net/newswire.php?story_id=895

- we've also added this statement there and are working on a feature

http://afr.com/articles/2005/07/08/1120704524463.html

In case anyone was wondering whether it was necessary to make a statement.

Edited to add: it's the top google news alert if you put in "anarchists" as a search term, too. Double

Also, this smear from the FT, which suggests that al-queda are using anarchist tactics: -

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/07d66288-ef12-11d9-8b10-00000e2511c8.html

indymedia Ireland has included a quote from the UK anarchist statement in it's front page feature http://www.indymedia.ie and the full text in the story itself.

Incidentally, imc.ie has a much tougher editorial line on conspiralunacy and other internet twaddle, but a much broader political editorial line than .uk It is also worth pointing out that one of the reasons for this is that the organised anarchist movement has been heavily involved in it for a long time. Projects like indymedia are wide open to anarchist involvement and even though I disagree with various things about the uk site, I have very little sympathy for anarchists who criticise them rather than getting involved and trying to improve it. The uk imc-istas that I know are generally genuine, thoughtful and open to persuasion.

Full support from The Cunningham Amenment.

Noted in yesterday's Guardian, in an article by Tariq Ali, that he knows of "Islamo-anarchist" groups whose "reach is small but deadly". This is a new one on me. I've written to him asking to expand. Regards Peter Good.

Sounds like nonsense, Tariq Ali trying to push his anti-anarchist prejudices.

Would be interested to hear what reply you get.

Following the London bombings Tariq Ali had an article in the Guardian claiming to have knowledge of "Islamo-Anarchist" groups. I e-mailed him saying I had been researching Anarchism for many years and the existence of an "Islamo-Anarchist" tendency would open up some fascinating avenues of research. I asked if he would kindly supply me with some sources. No reply received. Paul Marsh is probably correct. Just sloppy journalism.

Peter Good (of The Cunningham Amendment)

(this isn't an attack peter)

Sloppy journalism, my arse, he's a cunt!!!

to be fair this person probably isnt 'an ordinary working person' and in reality is most likely still at school/uni and is a bit of an idealist who plans to avoid work forever. What is this idea that people work in order to fuel their obsession with shiny consumables? I'd be happy to be able to afford rent! Once i can afford flash cars/dvd players/3 peice sweets etc i'm fucking retiring!

A DVD player will cost you about £20.

Rent, furniture and flash cars I can understand.

yeah i know, plus i have one

you know what i mean though.

Thing is i'm sure i was exactly the same approximately a year ago, having digested too much debord and the like and having barely done a whole days work in my life i was sure that the only thing that buttressed peoples insistence on selling themselves was some sort of fetish for consumable goods! As if people could just overcome their addiction we could all live in a egalitarian, democratic, post-capitalist society! Stop buying shit and everything would be fine, just fine.

The ICC has replied to the the anarchist statements against the London bombings (libcom.org and the ZACF) in the article 'Opposition to the London Bombings: Voices are raised against capitalism’s descent into barbarism'.

The importance of both statements is that they grasp something of the fundamental fact that terror, like imperialism, is not a function of this or that country, or a result of one foreign policy rather than another, but is a product of capitalism as a whole from which no state can stand apart.

These statements contain certian weaknesses, such as a lack of precision about the nature of capitalism and reflecting a certain ‘liberal’ approach in contrasting ‘the people’ to ‘the state’, which loses sight of the fact that only the offensive action of the working class against capitalism can end the slaughter. That being said, they have the distinct advantage over the leftists such as the SWP of not giving justifications for the actions of the suicide bombers.

The London bombings are not the result of 'poor policy'. They are the open expression of the barbarism that capitalist society in its decomposition has imposed on Africa, the Middle East, the Americas and now once again Europe. A barbarism of which will only deepen, and which only the struggle of the working class can offer an escape from.

For the ICC,

World Revolution,

Section in Britain of the ICC.