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Against All Odds: The Iraqi Trade Unions - Manchester SolFed Public Meeting

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Against All Odds: The Iraqi Trade Unions - Manchester SolFed Public Meeting

Against All Odds: The Iraqi Trade Unions

A detailed account of working class resistance against the imperialist occupation, privatisation, insurgency and civil war from a trade unionist who works for the Iraqi trade unions.

The Basement, 24 Lever Street

Monday March 12th at 7.30

Manchester SolFed Public Meeting, everyone welcome. Please spread the word.

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Feb 9 2007 14:40

if you pay her travel, she will come anywhere i think! She might even be able to sort something out with the costs.

PM me for contact details.

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Feb 9 2007 14:50

yeah just pm'd JDMF and said we could prob put her on just before or after Organise! If we did it properly we could do a tour. Anyway lets see what her availability is like...

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Feb 9 2007 14:56

H'mm yea, I'd imagine Cork WSM might also be interested and possibly even some of the Galway people. Maynooth might also be possible.

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Feb 9 2007 14:58
JoeBlack2 wrote:
Maynooth might also be possible.

At the national seminary?

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Feb 9 2007 15:02
JoeBlack2 wrote:
H'mm yea, I'd imagine Cork WSM might also be interested and possibly even some of the Galway people. Maynooth might also be possible.

and possibly Derry. (which would be six talks altogether which might be quite a lot for someone to do if they're working full or even part time .....)

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Feb 9 2007 15:28
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JoeBlack2 wrote:
Maynooth might also be possible.

At the national seminary?

Yes - there aren't many priests there anymore so its a standard college with at least two anarchists working there and quite a lot of anarchisty students.

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Feb 9 2007 15:40

Blimey. When did that happen? (It becoming a standard college).

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Blimey. When did that happen? (It becoming a standard college).

Not sure, from their web site the rot set in in 1966 or so. Apparently in the canteen these days there is one lonely table of priests tucked away in the corner.

Web sites at http://www.nuim.ie/

Breif history at http://www.nuim.ie/about/history.shtml

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Feb 9 2007 15:49

Cheers, Joe & revol. I've been past Maynooth in a car when I was living in Dublin years ago. I can't imagine any student wanting to study there -- it's miles from anywhere, isn't it? (This is all by-the-by, like).

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Cheers, Joe & revol. I've been past Maynooth in a car when I was living in Dublin years ago. I can't imagine any student wanting to study there -- it's miles from anywhere, isn't it? (This is all by-the-by, like).

you sure there weren't more divine reasons for you "passing by"?

I wouldn't have sullied my shoes by walking into Maynooth at the time. I was staying in Belvedere College at the time, young man. wink

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Cheers, Joe & revol. I've been past Maynooth in a car when I was living in Dublin years ago. I can't imagine any student wanting to study there -- it's miles from anywhere, isn't it?

Dublin has grown rather a lot so I'd say Maynooth is almost a suburb now, people commute from much further out. Also its on a train line so its actually quite easy to get to.

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Mar 8 2007 10:32

alright folks, just as a reminder, this is on monday coming. Its looking to be an interesting one me thinks!

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Mar 8 2007 15:33

Is this E**?

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Mar 8 2007 16:03

aye.

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Mar 13 2007 15:05

trying to continue a new tradition of reporting back from meetings:

16 people attended the talk, many new faces. The turn out was disappointing considering how much promotion work was done, but hey ho. Need to analyse our methods.

But the talk it self was very interesting, informative and entertaining. Speaker was very knowledgeable and delivered a good introduction to the subject. I hope other SolFEd locals and other groups will take up the opportunity to organise a public speaking event with her.

I left my notes home (at work now) so wont try to summarise the main points here. I went to the meeting thinking i wont hear much new stuff - how wrong was I!

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Mar 17 2007 17:15

Its a good idea to invite people with some knowledge of situations outside our immediate experience irrespective of their lack of Lib Com or anarchist politics and this speaker has some useful knowledge to impart and an enthusiastic delivery.. It can encourage a wider attendance and stimulate debate - but only if we are prepared to contest ideas we don't agree with. This can be done in a friendly, if critical way, which I tried to do in my single contribution, but I was dissapointed that no one else seemed interested in challenging this speakers frankly leftist, nationalist, statist, trade unionist and, despite her genuine good intentions ,muddled politics. To this extent the meeting may have been syndicalist but it wasn't very anarchist or communist.

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Mar 17 2007 17:40
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I was dissapointed that no one else seemed interested in challenging this speakers frankly leftist, nationalist, statist, trade unionist and, despite her genuine good intentions ,muddled politics. To this extent the meeting may have been syndicalist but it wasn't very anarchist or communist.

So does that confirm what I was saying about 3rd worldism on the other thread here?

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Mar 17 2007 17:45

it was a juggle of her representing the reality of the iraq trade unions politics and the political and cultural facts on the ground in iraq - and her own libertarian politics.

So in that sense i agree with the first half of your comment, but the latter one, maybe it was just that we thought its quite clear what our politics are? Maybe we should have made more of an effort to bring them out?

I thought there were few contributions which addressed the gap between "our" politics as anarchists and the politics of this oil workers union, including the first contribution/comment straight after her presentation was over?