Unite Against Fascism....Colne, Lancs

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pushka
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Apr 18 2005 18:30
Unite Against Fascism....Colne, Lancs

Dear All,

On Weds of this week (20th) the UNITE AGAINST FASCISM van which is touring the country with the

Don't Vote BNP message is coming to Pendle and Burnley. It gets to Colne at 2pm. I have called a press conference and the three main party candidates will be there with faith leaders, trade union reps, community activists and hopefully PUAF members and supporters who are free then.

please come to the Watson St car park about 1.45pm (opposite Shepherd's pub at top of Colne on the right )

it should only take half an hour or so and the more the better!

Searchlight going out steadily tho I still have plenty. Please get in touch with me if you haven't had any yet and are willing to deliver. Our friends from Ribble Valley are now doing Barlick having done Earby!!

thanks

Helen

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Apr 20 2005 18:31
pushka wrote:
Dear All,

On Weds of this week (20th) the UNITE AGAINST FASCISM van which is touring the country with the

Don't Vote BNP message is coming to Pendle and Burnley. It gets to Colne at 2pm. I have called a press conference and the three main party candidates will be there with faith leaders, trade union reps, community activists and hopefully PUAF members and supporters who are free then.

please come to the Watson St car park about 1.45pm (opposite Shepherd's pub at top of Colne on the right )

it should only take half an hour or so and the more the better!

Searchlight going out steadily tho I still have plenty. Please get in touch with me if you haven't had any yet and are willing to deliver. Our friends from Ribble Valley are now doing Barlick having done Earby!!

three main party candidates will be there with faith leaders

Politicains and fucking faith leaders,the very same people who make people turn to the far right in droves.

Do these libaral shidigs ever actully work,its like bruno brooke,s radio one roadshow with student chic.

Fuck it.

thanks

Helen

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Apr 20 2005 18:32

sorry i messed that up,my reply here

three main party candidates will be there with faith leaders

Politicains and fucking faith leaders,the very same people who make people turn to the far right in droves.

Do these libaral shidigs ever actully work,its like bruno brooke,s radio one roadshow with student chic.

Fuck it.

pushka
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Apr 20 2005 22:46

Yeah, I know what you mean Mr Lustbather...I suppose all these people are trying to show is that ALL people, of whatever political persuasion, are agreed upon trying to stop the rise of fascism in our country...

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Apr 21 2005 10:18
pushka wrote:
Yeah, I know what you mean Mr Lustbather...I suppose all these people are trying to show is that ALL people, of whatever political persuasion, are agreed upon trying to stop the rise of fascism in our country...

But the very people who help make the bnp seem a anti-estblioshment alternative are those who are going to these shidigs.Polticains,vicers and mullahs.One look at those tits would make any one wear leather shorts.

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Apr 21 2005 14:52

I wonder what anarchists are doing working with these people. They tried to get the existing antifascist group in Oldham shut down.

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Apr 21 2005 15:03

aren't they just flybynights, who steam in somewhere for a couple of days and then fuck off and leave the locals to deal with all the shit that arises as a result of their fuckwittery?

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Apr 21 2005 15:38

what people forget is all these faith leaders & politicians are another threat to what freedom we have. A curse on all priests, imans, rabbis, politicans and coppers.

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Apr 21 2005 18:17
oisleep wrote:
aren't they just flybynights, who steam in somewhere for a couple of days and then fuck off and leave the locals to deal with all the shit that arises as a result of their fuckwittery?

Surely we should be critically involved were we can...

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Apr 21 2005 18:31
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oisleep wrote:
aren't they just flybynights, who steam in somewhere for a couple of days and then fuck off and leave the locals to deal with all the shit that arises as a result of their fuckwittery?

Surely we should be critically involved were we can...

What with a roadshow full of dogcollars/bushy beards and shiny suits.

Have uaf actully stopped the vote of the bnp going down?.

Do people listen to guys barking at them ,palying a few tunes then buggering of to the next town

.Like i said its bruno brookes radio 1 roadshow with lefty student cred.

STOP THE BNAZIPSERS

pushka
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Apr 21 2005 19:08

I believe that the actions of the UAF, and the posting of the Searchlight newspapers thoughout Pendle prevented the BNP from gaining seats there. I don't have the comparison figures here myself, however I am sure that I can contact Helen if you want confirmation of this.

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Apr 21 2005 19:51

I know that the UAF tried to make Oldham United Against Racism fold when they were launched. Lots of SWP shennanigans and manipulation. Plus threats. Just cos they don't like competition from people who've actually been doing the business for years.

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Apr 22 2005 08:46
pushka wrote:
I believe that the actions of the UAF, and the posting of the Searchlight newspapers thoughout Pendle prevented the BNP from gaining seats there. I don't have the comparison figures here myself, however I am sure that I can contact Helen if you want confirmation of this.

I got a searchlight tabliod throu my door last week,very shabby.Going on about world war 2 all the time trying frighted poeple with the spectte of " tommy swinehund vee will kill you" mantra,if griffo got in.

The only poeple who go to uaf shindigs are those who go to ufa shindigs.

Heres a alternative,try building a working class alternative ala iwca on the ground with out the interferance from professtional leftys like wheyfaced bennet and the rest of vicers/mulahhs and shiny siuted polticos.

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Apr 22 2005 09:35

We're a small anarchist group in Burnley building slowly. It's different from Manchester and larger places where anarchist networks are well established.

You have to think practically about what you can do against the fascists and remaining quiet and not getting involved in local anti-fascist activity is not an option Lustbather in a small town like this.

UAF in Burnley & Pendle included a diverse range of people, and the Swerps were there, but so were many from the community, independent people just wanting to do something to stop the BNP here.

Whilst we build anarchist alternatives, and this will take time, I think we have to be involved presenting those alternatives and ideas wherever we can. I've noted your comments Lustbather about not denying the BNP the platform and all that in Keighley. But it doesn't work to remain silent. Part of building the anarchist alternative is to get out there, do something and being there in UAF putting anarchist ideas on fighting fascists has been important here in Burnley and Pendle. Believe me I've been getting plenty of stick from the Swerps, Liberals and all the rest for shouting out my ideas within UAF.

You tell me not to touch it, but I say I will be in there shouting my ideas. So we are agreed on - fuck um, but not quite on the tactics of how to go about it. Your news on what's happening in Keighley with the BNP we can no doubt learn from in Burnley. You aint that far away in Keighley - we should talk about getting together and sharing ideas on how to fight the fascists here in Burnley and over in West Yorks.

Wot say you buster? violet black star

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Apr 22 2005 11:54
Mitch wrote:
We're a small anarchist group in Burnley building slowly. It's different from Manchester and larger places where anarchist networks are well established.

You have to think practically about what you can do against the fascists and remaining quiet and not getting involved in local anti-fascist activity is not an option Lustbather in a small town like this.

UAF in Burnley & Pendle included a diverse range of people, and the Swerps were there, but so were many from the community, independent people just wanting to do something to stop the BNP here.

Whilst we build anarchist alternatives, and this will take time, I think we have to be involved presenting those alternatives and ideas wherever we can. I've noted your comments Lustbather about not denying the BNP the platform and all that in Keighley. But it doesn't work to remain silent. Part of building the anarchist alternative is to get out there, do something and being there in UAF putting anarchist ideas on fighting fascists has been important here in Burnley and Pendle. Believe me I've been getting plenty of stick from the Swerps, Liberals and all the rest for shouting out my ideas within UAF.

You tell me not to touch it, but I say I will be in there shouting my ideas. So we are agreed on - fuck um, but not quite on the tactics of how to go about it. Your news on what's happening in Keighley with the BNP we can no doubt learn from in Burnley. You aint that far away in Keighley - we should talk about getting together and sharing ideas on how to fight the fascists here in Burnley and over in West Yorks.

Wot say you buster? violet black star

Thats sounds fine and dandy and very worthy,but the real solutions is to put on the ground in those white working class area real non-race based alternatives.A group that understands the greivenacis without a left libaral sneer.I persoannlty think the iwca have the right ideas and nounce.

Has for me helping,you would not touch me with barge pole to be honest.

I argue with my reflection and iam a anti-socail bugger,i can talk the talk on message boards and give my own personal suggestions to help, but i am to " me me me" in real life.

pushka
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Apr 23 2005 13:36
knightrose wrote:
I know that the UAF tried to make Oldham United Against Racism fold when they were launched. Lots of SWP shennanigans and manipulation. Plus threats. Just cos they don't like competition from people who've actually been doing the business for years.

I'm sorry to hear about that Knightrose, and obviously would not condone that sort of activity anywhere...

However I must go along with what Mitch said regarding our small areas of Burnley and Pendle.

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Apr 24 2005 17:53

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Whilst the BNP are small and exist in the main because of the inability of capital to satisfy working class needs, they exist and can't be dismissed lightly. We have to see that their political poison is fostered by the state and its allies i.e. commerce and industry with the political parties.

We should be allying ourselves with any reasnable group with a view to defeating the fascist threat. What we should not do is go into the alliance or the struggle without knowing where we are going, or what we want out of the business. We have to think about it. So that when this election is over we are prepared to come along with our own anti-fascist organisations fully clued up and knowing what there is to KnoW. Buggering about is not an option. I agree fully with Mitch and Pushka.

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Apr 25 2005 09:16

"Thats sounds fine and dandy and very worthy,but the real solutions is to put on the ground in those white working class area real non-race based alternatives.A group that understands the greivenacis without a left libaral sneer.I persoannlty think the iwca have the right ideas and nounce."

Oh eye, been working on this Puska and I and others - we're in the thick of it - specially Pushka - she been doing this all her life in Nelson - she's the best.

It ain't pretty though this bit Lustbuster, you gotta have some balls for this. At the same time though you've gotta challenge all that off the wall shit that gets in the way, aka Swerps, fuckwit donothing labour councillors, liberal opportunists, well meaning do-gooders in community groups bla de bla. One big circus, all feeding off each other.

When you've seen people you know, or thought you knew, turn to the BNP hopping on that bandwagon of blame - keeps you pushing on as this is scary shit. Used to have a good woman friend in a Burnley factory we both worked at five years ago. She's a BNP councillor now. What the fuck happened there. Well, I know what happened, it's complicated, but she made the choice.