Preston Defy-ID

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Steve
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Mar 24 2005 12:16
Preston Defy-ID

At a meeting on Tuesday it was decided to form a Preston Defy-ID group. Next meeting 7pm,Tuesday 12th April at the Muse, Lune Street. A leaflet is being put together and othe actions palnned. Also a Mayday social is being organised with Preston SolFed. More details to follow.

(edit to say 12th)

ftony
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Mar 24 2005 14:54

Liverpool's got a good defy-id website if youse lot want to have a look.

liverpool-defy-id.org.uk

i don't have much to do with em but i'm sure they'll be glad to see that there are more peeps keeping it real as 'in the northwest but AMAZINGLY not in manchester' kinda way. wink

ticking_fool
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Mar 25 2005 10:47

Thanks for the plug smile

We've got a few leaflets knocking about if you want to use any (some are a bit out of date now, but most are still good) and if there's anything else we can do just drop us a line.

Nice to see it spreading.

lucy82
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Mar 27 2005 21:53
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Nice to see it spreading

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yeah it is. manchester defy-id people were thinking about a national pledge not to carry id given we've had a largely positive response from people on the street? what do other people think?

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Mar 28 2005 21:10
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manchester defy-id people were thinking about a national pledge not to carry id given we've had a largely positive response from people on the street? what do other people think?

Seems like a good idea. It's a bit of a strange time at the moment seeing as we don't know whether the current bill is going to be dropped, so we don't know whether to carry on targetting MPs or not. We've got a few parliament related things possibly going on in Liverpool during the election campaign (I won't say too much because it's all still a bit up in the air), but our contact with the public's dropped away a little bit (we all got busy and couldn't leaflet for a while).

A pledge might be a good thing to hang conversations in the street on, and if the bill does get dropped we could use it to organise in the meantime before the inevitable new version emerges in the next parliament.

I like the idea, not sure what the best way to do it would be though. In Liverpool we're definitely going to have a stall at the May Day doo dah on Merseyside, and we might have something a little earlier (sorry to be all coy - it could all go pear shaped yet, so I don't want to publically jinx it), so a pledge could be a good thing to push at those events.

I'll stop now, I'm just rambling

lucy82
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Mar 28 2005 21:56

yeah, it is a bit of an odd time but we're sort of working on the premise that the government sidelining the id issue gives us more opportunity to communicate with people and get them clued up as to what this means (although to be honest, a lot of people are incredibly clued up already). something like the pledge would, as you say, be a good talking point and also gives people something positive to do. if it got big enough nationally it could actually achieve something (i.e. if we have a critical mass of dissenters, the database can't work). early ideas are to do it online. obviously that raises issues of protecting privacy - the last thing we want is to help them create the damn database!

anyway, we've a meeting tomorrow and i'll tell people what you said. good luck with whatever it is you don't want to jinx 8)

lucy82
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Mar 28 2005 22:03

btw, i like the website. nice one.

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Mar 29 2005 19:28
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yeah, it is a bit of an odd time but we're sort of working on the premise that the government sidelining the id issue gives us more opportunity to communicate with people and get them clued up as to what this means

Which is spot on I think. We're going to try and use the election campaign if we can to raise the profile of the thing, especially if it ends up in the manifesto, but mostly it's a matter of getting out and talking to people. I like your idea of taking the ministry of truth on tour (the photos of that looked pretty cool), that should work pretty well.

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anyway, we've a meeting tomorrow and i'll tell people what you said.

I'll mention it to people on Thursday as well.

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btw, i like the website. nice one.

It's great, isn't it. None of my doing, I'm just riding on the coat tails of infinitely more talented people. smile

Steve
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Apr 7 2005 15:28

Reminder next meeting 7pm Tuesday 12th April, upstairs at the Muse, Lune Street

Steve
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May 14 2005 11:02

Preston Defy-ID are meeting

Tuesday 17th May

7pm

The Muse, Lune Street.

Talk about the Mayday event and next steps. We have produced a leaflet that was given out over Mayday, it's based on the Manchester ones. If anyone woyuld like a pdf of it pm me or contact prestonsolfed@boltblue.com

Steve
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May 16 2005 15:32

Looks like they are going to go for it after all.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1484700,00.html

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The cabinet has decided to rush through its controversial identity cards legislation, one of the centrepieces of tomorrow's Queen's Speech, to try to take advantage of the Tories' post-election disarray to get it through the Commons, Whitehall sources have confirmed.

Ministers privately believe they can overcome any renewed Labour rebellion over the legislation by relying on the backing or abstention of some Tory MPs to get it through its second reading vote within a fortnight.