Is Infoshop gone?

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Guilt
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Feb 2 2007 18:06
Is Infoshop gone?

I haven't been able to hit up Infoshop for a week or two, and email messages to chuck0 return error messages. Did he take the site offline, run out of money, or what?

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Feb 2 2007 18:17

He's just having server problems. Unfortunately for the anarchist movement ChuckO and his infernal "big tent" anarchism will be back soon.

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Feb 2 2007 18:20

google reveals it might be flag.blackened.net server troubles: http://chuck.mahost.org/weblog/?p=1398

And that it's just about up but not quite:

http://chuck.mahost.org/weblog/?p=1423

a month is a long time though.

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Feb 2 2007 18:23
Mike Harman wrote:

a month is a long time though.

Not long enough.

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Feb 2 2007 19:01

I do cool

Nah - I'm beginning to think that libcom in general goes over my head.

I downloaded a few radio shows on that site - iirc. That was during then "key to happiness" phase tongue

Is it worth asking what the sugnificance of 'big tent' is. Or is it too much for me to understand?

Is it like a marquee - its a party? Or maybe a wedding confused ?

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Feb 2 2007 19:21

After posting on libcom for awhile I think I've had enough of the "big tent" anarchism of infoshop... There just isn't enough theory talk going on at the "shop", to many life-stylist goon monkeys', and to many ignorant "chaos anarchists". I've really just had enough, and would rather discuss issues with comrades, not anarcho-trendys.

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Feb 2 2007 19:22

why cant it just stay offline....?

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Feb 2 2007 19:23
x357997 wrote:
why cant it just stay offline....?

Then ChuckO couldn't complain that the anarchist movement doesn't support him.

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Feb 2 2007 19:23
lem wrote:
Is it worth asking what the sugnificance of 'big tent' is.

no significance at all lem, don't worry about it.
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Feb 2 2007 19:29
thugarchist wrote:
x357997 wrote:
why cant it just stay offline....?

Then ChuckO couldn't complain that the anarchist movement doesn't support him.

holy fucking shit, I hate people that get all emotional when I want to banter them for their bougie ass bastardizd versions of anarchism.

"...doesnt support him."

Its fucking pathetic when people have such ill thouhgtout ideas that when someone offers some debate or questions them, the only way they can get out of it is tell everyone they arnt being supportive and get all emotional

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Feb 2 2007 19:31
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arnt being supportive and get all emotional

Thats <3 tho innit.

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Feb 2 2007 19:33
x357997 wrote:
thugarchist wrote:
x357997 wrote:
why cant it just stay offline....?

Then ChuckO couldn't complain that the anarchist movement doesn't support him.

holy fucking shit, I hate people that get all emotional when I want to banter them for their bougie ass bastardizd versions of anarchism.

"...doesnt support him."

Its fucking pathetic when people have such ill thouhgtout ideas that when someone offers some debate or questions them, the only way they can get out of it is tell everyone they arnt being supportive and get all emotional

He got so pissed at me once he snitchjacketed me as a fed then apologized publicly after a few dozen people said they were gonna show up in kansas and "say hello"

I never understand why people get so upset by arguing against each others ideas. I learn more about the weaknesses in my theory and praxis by trying to defend it than anything else.

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Feb 2 2007 19:40
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I learn more about the weaknesses in my theory and praxis by trying to defend it than anything else.

bold of you to say so. i've been spanked a few times around here and it's taught me to think a little longer before opening my yap.

i've never had the chuckO experience, i came here directly (the ICC pointed me to it smile)). he seems to bring out, er, strong feelings in people

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Feb 2 2007 19:44
newyawka wrote:
thugarchist wrote:
I learn more about the weaknesses in my theory and praxis by trying to defend it than anything else.

bold of you to say so. i've been spanked a few times around here and it's taught me to think a little harder before opening my yap.

When I was in Baltimore's Roundhouse Collective I grew more in terms of theory and praxis than ever really, simply because there were people to challenge me who were as passionate as I am.

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Feb 2 2007 19:46
newyawka wrote:
thugarchist wrote:
I learn more about the weaknesses in my theory and praxis by trying to defend it than anything else.

bold of you to say so. i've been spanked a few times around here and it's taught me to think a little longer before opening my yap.

i've never had the chuckO experience, i came here directly (the ICC pointed me to it smile)). he seems to bring out, er, strong feelings in people

hes a 40 year old bougie piece of shit who lives with his mom in the mid-west jerking it to crimethinc.

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Feb 2 2007 19:47
x357997 wrote:
newyawka wrote:
thugarchist wrote:
I learn more about the weaknesses in my theory and praxis by trying to defend it than anything else.

bold of you to say so. i've been spanked a few times around here and it's taught me to think a little longer before opening my yap.

i've never had the chuckO experience, i came here directly (the ICC pointed me to it smile)). he seems to bring out, er, strong feelings in people

hes a 40 year old bougie piece of shit who lives with his mom in the mid-west jerking it to crimethinc.

Regardless of our strong political differences... North American class struggle anarchists are united in our contempt for ChuckO.

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Feb 2 2007 19:53
thugarchist wrote:
x357997 wrote:
newyawka wrote:
thugarchist wrote:
I learn more about the weaknesses in my theory and praxis by trying to defend it than anything else.

bold of you to say so. i've been spanked a few times around here and it's taught me to think a little longer before opening my yap.

i've never had the chuckO experience, i came here directly (the ICC pointed me to it smile)). he seems to bring out, er, strong feelings in people

hes a 40 year old bougie piece of shit who lives with his mom in the mid-west jerking it to crimethinc.

Regardless of our strong political differences... North American class struggle anarchists are united in our contempt for ChuckO.

yea, it makes me happy!

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Feb 2 2007 19:56
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Is it worth asking what the sugnificance of 'big tent' is. Or is it too much for me to understand?

Is it like a marquee - its a party? Or maybe a wedding confused ?

The big tent is one of these:

It contains many of these:

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Feb 2 2007 19:58
thugarchist wrote:
x357997 wrote:
newyawka wrote:
thugarchist wrote:
I learn more about the weaknesses in my theory and praxis by trying to defend it than anything else.

bold of you to say so. i've been spanked a few times around here and it's taught me to think a little longer before opening my yap.

i've never had the chuckO experience, i came here directly (the ICC pointed me to it smile)). he seems to bring out, er, strong feelings in people

hes a 40 year old bougie piece of shit who lives with his mom in the mid-west jerking it to crimethinc.

Regardless of our strong political differences... North American class struggle anarchists are united in our contempt for ChuckO.

yea, it makes me happy!

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Feb 2 2007 19:59
IrrationallyAngry wrote:
lem wrote:
Is it worth asking what the sugnificance of 'big tent' is. Or is it too much for me to understand?

Is it like a marquee - its a party? Or maybe a wedding confused ?

The big tent is one of these:

It contains many of these:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!

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Feb 2 2007 20:27

Okay, I hate to be the party pooper here, but as a North American class struggle anarchist, I must confess that I don't have contempt for Chuck0. Sure I disagree with Chuck0 in all the predictable spots, I was never fond of his arbitrary methods in running infoshop, and I'm dismayed by the way infoshop has shifted anarchist politics in North America away from class struggle over the past five years. I haven't bothered to look at the site in a very long time.

But this thread is mostly just silly. In particular

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hes a 40 year old bougie piece of shit who lives with his mom in the mid-west jerking it to crimethinc.

seems both unnecessarily nasty and a flat out appeal to prejudice. Neither being forty, nor living with one's parents as an adult, are things that should be cause for criticism as far as I can tell.

Yes, I'm serious.

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Feb 2 2007 20:35
Michael wrote:
Okay, I hate to be the party pooper here, but as a North American class struggle anarchist, I must confess that I don't have contempt for Chuck0. Sure I disagree with Chuck0 in all the predictable spots, I was never fond of his arbitrary methods in running infoshop, and I'm dismayed by the way infoshop has shifted anarchist politics in North America away from class struggle over the past five years. I haven't bothered to look at the site in a very long time.

But this thread is mostly just silly. In particular

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hes a 40 year old bougie piece of shit who lives with his mom in the mid-west jerking it to crimethinc.

seems both unnecessarily nasty and a flat out appeal to prejudice. Neither being forty, nor living with one's parents as an adult, are things that should be cause for criticism as far as I can tell.

Yes, I'm serious.

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Feb 2 2007 20:49
Michael wrote:
Neither being forty ... should be cause for criticism as far as I can tell.

whew! thanks!

Michael
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Feb 2 2007 20:49

HUH???

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Feb 2 2007 20:55
Michael wrote:
HUH???

What seems to be confusing?

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Feb 2 2007 20:58

Just reading the above comments on info shop and everyones dislike of infoshop. Can you then direct me to a good current. I'm finding anarchism more diverse than Trotsky/Leninsm.

bill

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Feb 2 2007 21:28
Michael wrote:
But this thread is mostly just silly. In particular

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hes a 40 year old bougie piece of shit who lives with his mom in the mid-west jerking it to crimethinc.

seems both unnecessarily nasty and a flat out appeal to prejudice. Neither being forty, nor living with one's parents as an adult, are things that should be cause for criticism as far as I can tell.

Yes, I'm serious.

I agree with what you say about being forty, and living with your parents Michael (if anyone wonders I am only 38, and I don't), but surely big tent anarchism is complete rubbish. I though that the picture of the clowns was quite amusing.

Devrim

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Feb 2 2007 22:02

ok, i'm a class struggle anarchist and i A: kinda like
Chuck even though he's frequently wrong, and B: when it's up and running usually open infoshop inews with my first cup of coffee in the morning. broad coverage of global social movements, i find that more useful than some of the catfights that go on here. smile

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Feb 2 2007 22:05
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What seems to be confusing?

Just that picture you posted of the guy with the enormous cat. Not sure who he is, or what it means.

Oh, and Devrim, the clowns made me laugh too, and you're right about "big tent anarchism" as well, just so we're clear.

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Feb 2 2007 22:08

ok, i didn't notice the bit about Chuck snitch-baiting Duke at first. the news page is still useful though.

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Feb 2 2007 22:15
mikabill wrote:
Just reading the above comments on info shop and everyones dislike of infoshop. Can you then direct me to a good current. I'm finding anarchism more diverse than Trotsky/Leninsm.

bill

Im still here lol

bill