UK riots: updates and discussion

in response to police killings?

Reliable source: one of the buildings on fire is Tottenham Police Station

From twitter:

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Reliable source: one of the buildings on fire is Tottenham Police Station

But who knows?

"I came around the corner and saw about six unmarked police cars cornering a people carrier near a bus stop.
"I heard the police shout something like 'Don't move' and I saw them drag the driver out of the car. I don't know if they dragged the other guy out in the passenger seat. He was the one who got shot - the passenger.
"About three or four police officers had both men pinned on the ground at gunpoint. They were really big guns and then I heard four loud shots. The police shot him on the floor."

7.35pm: Initial ballistics tests on the bullet that lodged in a police officer's radio when Mark Duggan died on Thursday night show it was a police issue bullet, the Guardian understands.

The Guardian's crime correspondent, Sandra Laville, reports:

The revelation will fuel the fury in Tottenham about the killing of Mark Duggan by armed officers.

It also undermines suggestions that there was an exchange of fire between Duggan and the police before he died.

The bullet which was found lodged in the radio of one of the officers at the scene is still undergoing forensic tests. But reliable sources have said the first ballistics examinations suggested it was a police issue bullet.

These are very distinct as the Metropolitan Police uses dum dum type hollowed out bullets designed not to pass through an object.

The early suggestion from the IPCC was that the Met officers had returned fire after someone in the minicab opened fire. But the result of the ballistics early test suggests both shots fired came from the police.

Riots in Enfield now?

Just saw a young guy on bbc news 24 say he saw anarchists coming to riot in tottenham.

Tottenham riots: Mob violence hits Enfield - police charge looters
Police officers baton-charged looters amid violent scenes in Enfield Town, as social disorder spreads after troubles in Tottenham.
A crowd of up to 200 people clashed with police outside Enfield Town train station this evening, say reports. A police van was attacked and damaged.
Groups of looters broke into entertainment store HMV in Enfield Town’s main shopping street to steal stock, say reports.
Earlier, rioters in Enfield moved from the edge of the borough in Southbury Road back into Enfield town, from where police had earlier driven them back.
Clashes between riot police and looters will alarm residents of Enfield Town, which is a peaceful suburb in an affluent part of the north London borough.

Regarding the original incident on Thursday when the police killed Mark Duggan, the Evening Standard had an eyewitness who said Duggan was shot while lying on the floor:

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"I came around the corner and saw about six unmarked police cars cornering a people carrier near a bus stop.
"I heard the police shout something like 'Don't move' and I saw them drag the driver out of the car. I don't know if they dragged the other guy out in the passenger seat. He was the one who got shot - the passenger.
"About three or four police officers had both men pinned on the ground at gunpoint. They were really big guns and then I heard four loud shots. The police shot him on the floor."

http://www.thisislondon.co​.uk/standard/article-23975​846-man-shot-dead-by-polic​e-in-tottenham.do

There's also a Channel 4 interview with a friend of Duggan, talking about systematic police harrassment of Duggan and people from the same estate:
http://www.channel4.com/news/mp-calls-for-calm-after-north-london-street-shooting