France: protests against new labour law

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Jun 14 2016 21:08

After a vote by members CGT has refused to sign the new contract on hours for rail workers. SUD has already refused so that means they can legally stop it being adopted. CFDT and UNSA have signed.

A couple, policeman and administrator in the police were stabed to death last night by a guy claiming to represent Daesh. This is being cited as a reason for fewer demonstrators. The weather was also quite rainy at times.

Tomorrow is the start of the baccalaureate exams for 18 year-olds so that will have an effect, I think all of the refineries have reopened now. The papers are talking about the strikes and blocades running out of steam. Don't really know enough to comment.

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French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said he could "no longer bear the attacks against the police".

Mr Cazeneuve called on protesters "to find within themselves a little humanity, tolerance and respect".

What a scumbag!

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Jun 16 2016 03:22

The CGT is very much against them as are other elements of the French state and the danger for the working class is that it is mobilised by these elements!!!

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Jun 16 2016 04:16

France president Hollande is reconsidering banning demonstrations because protecting and serve private property has the highest priority of the state
https://www.rt.com/news/346804-hollande-ban-demonstrations-france/

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Jun 16 2016 06:16

Paris 14 juin affrontements dockers/crs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVJlunWZ4us

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Jun 16 2016 08:22

Is it legitimate to place the disorder in Lille last night in the context of the protest against the new French labour law?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36543468

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Jun 16 2016 11:47
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Is it legitimate to place the disorder in Lille last night in the context of the protest against the new French labour law?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36543468

In what sense? The disorder isn't in solidarity with the protests and I'd be surprised if many fans were aware of them. IT's the same context in that it's happening in the same country at the same time but otherwise there's not much of a ink other than the police used against them.

Rebonjour C.Hélène, merci pour le lien.

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Jun 17 2016 10:26

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The CGT is very much against them as are other elements of the French state and the danger for the working class is that it is mobilised by these elements!!!

Marx wrote:

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In politics a man may ally himself with the devil himself—only he must be sure that he is cheating the devil instead of the devil cheating him.

New York Daily Tribune, December 1, 1852

It matters little who mobilises the working class, so long as we outflank those petit bourgeois elements. This has happened time and again in France in recent events and historically.

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Jun 19 2016 00:22

Spotted: Makhnovist flag! (source: https://www.facebook.com/unityahdut/photos/a.274748132550379.75341.27432...)

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Jun 22 2016 09:37

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/21/exhausted-french-police-plead...

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France's main police union on Tuesday pleaded with workers to put off a national day of demonstrations on Thursday against a controversial labour law saying they are too "exhausted" to cope with protests on top of dealing with the Euro and terror threats.

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Jun 22 2016 11:26

The demonstration planned for tomorrow has been banned by the police:

"“After close examination, these alternative proposals address neither the security needs of people and property, nor the demands on police resources given the terrorist threat,” a police department statement said."

( http://www.france24.com/en/20160622-france-paris-french-police-bans-prot... )

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Jun 22 2016 14:52

This tweet says the march is due to go ahead but with a stupid route..

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Jun 22 2016 19:25

Brighton Solfed are organising a talk and discussion on this, Tuesday 28. June, 6pm in the Cowley Club.
http://www.brightonsolfed.org.uk/brighton/france-on-strike-talk-and-disc...

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Jun 22 2016 21:45

Article about sexism and rape culture on demonstrations.
The writer complains about the chants of "Fuck Julie not the workers" (Julie Gayet, Hollande was having an affair with her) and talks about previous demos where El-Khomri was called a whore and punitive rape was called for.
She then describes being eyed up by demonstrators and being repeatedly told that she shouldn't have worn a skirt because it's not 'suitable'.
After being gassed and strck with truncheons she asked for some water from anothe marcher who offered her a bootle and burst out laughing saying "Watch out, there's GHB in it" to which she responded:
"That's not funny. I'm getting tear-gassed and hit with truncheons just like you and you're breaking that solidarity with these kinds of jokes. As well as police violence we also need to be on our guard permanently because of these kinds of comments from comrades, you have no idea what it's like for us to be militants in these conditions."

There's also a tumbler account Salut camarade sexiste! (Hi sexist comrade) which is full of examples of sexism. One of which is this flyer calling on people to protest against the new law.

"Tired of the loi travail having the shirt off your back
blockade your school or demonstrate
fuck this consumer society by breaking pigs."

The march tomorrow has been given a route by the police, the area in pink is pedestriansed and the black line is the route, basically the propose route is walking around a stretch of the canal.

Posties in Hauts-de-Seine are still out (44 days) but they're scandalised because they're not being paid any more. I'm not quite sure why they're so surprised about it, but there was a solidarity donation of 15 grand from the CGT (printers and other branches) and a donations of 2500 from students at the ENS (which may or may not be part of the 15k) I'm not sure what ENS because it usually means one of the elite schools and I find it hard to believe they'd give money to strikers.

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Jun 24 2016 17:02

The MArch took place yesterday, a lot of searches on the way there with cops confiscating black clothing.

Once the march started there were chants of "Everybody hates the police" miwed with "Everybody hates going round in circles"

40-odd arrests by 3pm although most people seem to have been released pretty quickly.

A wildcat march took place with 2-500 people, dispersed near to place de la bourse, later on the police set up a massive checkpoint at Strasbourg Saint DEnis metro station and were carrying photos of people who had been on this march.

There was a breakawy /seperate wildcat march Rue Daumesnil, that ended up the station Gare de Lyon which was breifly occupied before the police arrived and emptied the building. (A lot of these 'occupations' simply mean people going to a place)

The marchers had until 6pm to dosperse and a few hundred were in place de la bastille at about 5.20 when they were kettled

Wildcat march from Menilmontant heading down towards Belleville just before 8, it lasted about an hour, one marcher arrested for shouting up to four arrests total.
A marcher was severely beaten by cops as they gassed marchers and fired rubber grenades, they then started trying to delete all photos. Banks and the CFDT union headquarters were targeted.

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Jun 25 2016 19:24

Over the last week or so there has been a number of solidarity actions and gestures from people in Greece. Timed with the national demonstration in Paris were gatherings at the French embassy and consulate in Athens and Patra. In the last few days there have been attacks on French state and capitalist targets in Greece, one burning an AXA vehicle, another against a Peugeot-Citroën dealership and, if I remember right, an embassy car was burnt.
It's worth noting that a 'reform' of the labor code in Greece is on Syriza's agenda in the coming months.

Two of the responsibility claims:
http://mpalothia.net/thessaloniki-greece-incendiary-attack-vehicles-peug...
http://mpalothia.net/athens-greece-incendiary-gesture-complicity-rebels-...

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Jun 25 2016 22:35

Anyone know what the reaction(s) within the workers' movement in France is/are to Brexit?

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Jun 26 2016 06:52
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Anyone know what the reaction(s) within the workers' movement in France is/are to Brexit?

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Jun 26 2016 09:39

Here is a printable infopacket on the movement in France assembled by La Onda, a communist group in LA:
https://en-contrainfo.espiv.net/files/2016/06/franceinfopacket.pdf

It includes some materials already posted here (like the reflections from la serveuse) but some other translations as well.

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Jun 26 2016 14:31
orange.ruffy wrote:
Here is a printable infopacket on the movement in France assembled by La Onda, a communist group in LA:
https://en-contrainfo.espiv.net/files/2016/06/franceinfopacket.pdf

It includes some materials already posted here (like the reflections from la serveuse) but some other translations as well.

It would be great if you could post that to our news section.

Appreciate the updates Jef and co

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Jul 5 2016 11:26

Demonstration today, another march from Place d'Italie to Place de la Bastill, Metro Bastille is alteady closed.

The head of FO (Force Ouvrière, Trotskyite union, salted the railways fairly well so punches above its weight.) has said that today's march will be the last of the summer but that it should not be taken as abandoning the struggle, he's not attending because he's been invited to a debate elsewhere. He said that everyone is going on holiday and, more interestinglt, that "it's getting too difficult with all the violence"
He has promised "surprises" over the summer and given the example of free toll roads, not sure how practicable that is as they are trying to automate toll roads with apps etc.

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Jul 5 2016 12:39
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FO (Force Ouvrière, Trotskyite union,

only partially true, the Lambertists have a strong influence (there were estimations around 20 years ago that somewhere between 10-20% of its functionaries and full-timers were Lambertists) but the majority of FO was and is generally in one way or another social democratic, there were also always other currents (syndicalist, anarchist, gaullist, LO, etc.), the glue which kept the FO since the late 40ies together was a hostility towards PCF and CGT (from which it split in 47) and to a lesser degree secularism (in the beginning directed against the catholic unions before their de-confessionalisation)

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FO (Force Ouvrière, Trotskyite union,

only partially true, the Lambertists have a strong influence (there were estimations around 20 years ago that somewhere between 10-20% of its functionaries and full-timers were Lambertists) but the majority of FO was and is generally in one way or another social democratic, there were also always other currents (syndicalist, anarchist, gaullist, LO, etc.), the glue which kept the FO since the late 40ies together was a hostility towards PCF and CGT (from which it split in 47) and to a lesser degree secularism (in the beginning directed against the catholic unions before their de-confessionalisation)

I didn't know that, thanks.

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Jul 9 2016 16:11
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the catholic unions before their de-confessionalisation

Say what?

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Jul 9 2016 20:19

the CFTC before its majority became the CFDT in the mid-60ies

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Jul 9 2016 20:40

No, I mean, "de-confessionalization". What does that mean? Workers had go to confession at union meetings?

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Jul 9 2016 22:04
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No, I mean, "de-confessionalization". What does that mean? Workers had go to confession at union meetings?

Secularisation.

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Jul 10 2016 09:58

2 pieces translated from French, more analytical:
- Against the conceptual dumbing down of the 2016 “movement” in France
- Spring 2016, an unexpected movement (Nicole Thé and G. Soriano)

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No, I mean, "de-confessionalization". What does that mean? Workers had go to confession at union meetings?

Secularisation.

Confessionalism is a term reffering to the division of society into groups based on "confessional communities" confessional in this case meaning "confession a specific religion" its similar to the situation in Northern Ireland:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessionalism_(politics)

Not the case in France.
The CFTC (Confederation of French christian workers) became secular and was renamed the CFDT (French democratic confederation of workers)
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Jul 11 2016 08:43

the term "de-confessionalization" is my (literalist) translation of the German term "Entkonfessionalisierung" which I found in stuff on CFTC/CFDT ... CFTC (like most other similar unions in Europe) wasn't a Christian but more precisely a Catholic union, an org where e.g. the 1% of French Protestants weren't really invited ... starting with WW2 and especially strong during the protests against the French colonial wars after 1945, a non-negligable part of the organized catholic milieu moved to the left and became mostly secularist