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May 6 2016 10:46

List of injuries caused by police.

https://nantes.indymedia.org/articles/34302

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May 6 2016 11:42

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[...] Rest in Peace.

Then that makes your repeated visits here to say this a form of necrophilia

Not that I really care one way or another, but the metaphor doesnt seem to be right; Boris seems to be pissing on the gravestones rather than fucking the dead. Those who like this site might be more easily compared with necrophiliacs if you accept Boris rather vague "Rest In Peace" as meaning the site is a corpse.
Or perhaps Coprophiliacs would be more appropriate, considering the admins past..

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May 6 2016 14:26

On police violence against demonstrators, and on poilce efforts to launch a PR counteroffensive:

French police hit back at 'anti-cop hatred' after protest violence

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At demonstrations against the labour reform bill outside parliament this week, protesters chanted what has now become a regular slogan: “Everyone hates the police.”

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May 6 2016 14:32

Some skirmishes in the social war in France:

Latest direct action news from France

And an analysis, from a Trotskyost background, containing interesting information on the attitude of the trade unions:

April 28, another step towards confrontation with the government

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May 6 2016 17:39

I'm bi lingual and have some spare time at the moment, so if anyone has any French txts that you need translating, I'm happy to help out.

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Not that I really care one way or another, but the metaphor doesnt seem to be right; Boris seems to be pissing on the gravestones rather than fucking the dead. Those who like this site might be more easily compared with necrophiliacs if you accept Boris rather vague "Rest In Peace" as meaning the site is a corpse.

Boris's hostility is more passionate and committed than the liking of most users; he is its most loyal opposition. This site, corpse or not, clearly has an ironic enduring attraction for Boris in his incarnation(s), however we metaphorically interpret it.

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May 6 2016 21:35
bedfordtk wrote:
I'm bi lingual and have some spare time at the moment, so if anyone has any French txts that you need translating, I'm happy to help out.

Cool. There are a few ideas here, honestly it will take as much time as you're willing to put into it. There's so much info out there,it's just scanning, sorting, summarising etc.

There are a few links below. If any lazy journos use them then at least put the article on here too.

Timeline of the nuits debout.

http://www.liberation.fr/france/2016/04/30/du-30-au-60-mars-un-mois-de-n...

These are the home pages on this subject for some of the main newspapers:

http://www.lemonde.fr/nuit-debout/

http://www.liberation.fr/nuit-debout,100606

http://www.humanite.fr/etiquettes/nuit-debout

http://www.humanite.fr/etiquettes/loi-travail-el-khomri

http://www.ouest-france.fr/economie/emploi/loi-travail/

Indymedia:

https://lille.indymedia.org/

https://nantes.indymedia.org/

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May 7 2016 08:49
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bedfordtk wrote:
I'm bi lingual and have some spare time at the moment, so if anyone has any French txts that you need translating, I'm happy to help out.

Cool. There are a few ideas here, honestly it will take as much time as you're willing to put into it. There's so much info out there,it's just scanning, sorting, summarising etc.

There are a few links below. If any lazy journos use them then at least put the article on here too.

Timeline of the nuits debout.

http://www.liberation.fr/france/2016/04/30/du-30-au-60-mars-un-mois-de-n...

These are the home pages on this subject for some of the main newspapers:

http://www.lemonde.fr/nuit-debout/

http://www.liberation.fr/nuit-debout,100606

http://www.humanite.fr/etiquettes/nuit-debout

http://www.humanite.fr/etiquettes/loi-travail-el-khomri

http://www.ouest-france.fr/economie/emploi/loi-travail/

Indymedia:

https://lille.indymedia.org/

https://nantes.indymedia.org/

Nice one, thanks for the links. I've ended up pretty out of the loop of goings on in France since I cut facebook out of my life 18 months or so ago, as I used to get most of my links to French language sites/txts off mates on there. I'll have a start on it over the weekend.

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May 9 2016 22:19
bedfordtk wrote:
I'm bi lingual and have some spare time at the moment, so if anyone has any French txts that you need translating, I'm happy to help out.

that would be absolutely fantastic! Anything you translate please feel free to post it to the news section with the tag "loi travail"

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May 10 2016 04:20

Students have widely reported being attacked, especially those who were filming.

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May 10 2016 20:47

The government forced through the loi travail this afternoon. Rather than vote in the parliament the PM Valls used article 49.3 of the constitution which allows the executive to pass measures on its own, unless it losses a vote of no confidence.

This evening there were demonstrations in a lot of cities around the country, Nantes, Rennes, Toulouse, Grenoble and outside the national assembly in Paris. Police used tear gas or attacked a number of these demonstrations. Also several unions have called demonstrations or strikes for next week and I think there was one day planned this week anyway.

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May 11 2016 08:25

Thursday is planned as a strike day. I didn't realise that they'd forced it through, that's going to create a big reaction!

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May 11 2016 11:45

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/10/francois-hollande-pushes-th...

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France’s Socialist government has taken the risky and controversial decision to bypass parliament and use a special decree to force through a contested labour reform bill by its president, François Hollande, that has brought hundreds of thousands of protesters on to the streets.

The defiant move by the government came as it faces growing pressure from its own rebel MPs and an ongoing street protest movement that has seen violent clashes. The government opted to use a heavy-handed and rare constitutional tactic which allows policies to be pushed through without a parliamentary debate after it failed to win over its own group of rebels.

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May 12 2016 12:07

Re post #39: https://libcom.org/forums/news/france-protests-against-new-labour-law-17...

- jef costello offers (for translation) bedfordtk only 4 very mainstream bourgeois, 2 mainstream Stalinist - ie l'humanite - sites (well-known for its consistent sabotage of all forms of class struggle for about 100 years), plus a couple of indymedia sites renowned for information and analysis that never differentiates between dire and diamond. It´s not that such sites are useless, but by ignoring more clearly radical sites, you give the impression that there´s nothing but dominant bullshit out there. In fact, the following anarchist sites are a lot more consistent at least, and yet JC, who I doubt is unaware of them, doesn't suggest them as a source for translation:

http://www.non-fides.fr/
http://attaque.noblogs.org/
http://lechatnoiremeutier.noblogs.org/
http://exploitesenerves.noblogs.org/
http://cettesemaine.info/breves/

As for Red Marriotts post ( https://libcom.org/forums/news/france-protests-against-new-labour-law-17... ):

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Not that I really care one way or another, but the metaphor doesnt seem to be right; Boris seems to be pissing on the gravestones rather than fucking the dead. Those who like this site might be more easily compared with necrophiliacs if you accept Boris rather vague "Rest In Peace" as meaning the site is a corpse.

Boris's hostility is more passionate and committed than the liking of most users; he is its most loyal opposition. This site, corpse or not, clearly has an ironic enduring attraction for Boris in his incarnation(s), however we metaphorically interpret it.

..."When the wise man points at the moon, the fool looks at his finger."
Or to put it another way: when the messenger points out something, the fool ignores what he's pointing out and shoots the messenger for pointing it out. The fact that RM says nothing about the movements in France (nor in South Africa) just adds to this impression of some personal fixation or ... I don´t know what, but it seems like he´s just got some incomprehensible personal grudge - really useless for any understanding of wider events.
As for the idea that I am this site's most loyal opposition, if 11 posts over more than 3 years is the most loyal opposition you lot have had then that might explain how very stale you've all become.

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May 12 2016 12:50
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As for the idea that I am this site's most loyal opposition, if 11 posts over more than 3 years is the most loyal opposition you lot have had then that might explain how very stale you've all become.

The man with various pseudonyms obviously can't count very well.

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May 12 2016 13:04

This bickering appears to me as the empty words of two opposing shopkeepers. My advice is get along with your neighbour or shut up shop.

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May 12 2016 21:25

The work code 'reform' was confirmed in the national assembly today when the government survived a vote of no-confidence.

Again there were protests and actions in a lot of different cities but generally seem to have had fewer people taking part. In Paris somewhere around 10,000 marched in the centre with running clashes with the police along the way(and then some brief scuffles even with a few soldiers guard one spot). During the day there were a few other actions: metro stations shut, blockade of a hotel, an ongoing occupation of a building of the Fine Arts School and nuit debout had there assembly outside the national assembly building for a while. Today there are more reports of tensions between autonomous/black blocs blocs and the unionists blocs.

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May 12 2016 22:35
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Re post #39: https://libcom.org/forums/news/france-protests-against-new-labour-law-17...

- jef costello offers (for translation) bedfordtk only 4 very mainstream bourgeois, 2 mainstream Stalinist - ie l'humanite - sites (well-known for its consistent sabotage of all forms of class struggle for about 100 years), plus a couple of indymedia sites renowned for information and analysis that never differentiates between dire and diamond. It´s not that such sites are useless, but by ignoring more clearly radical sites, you give the impression that there´s nothing but dominant bullshit out there. In fact, the following anarchist sites are a lot more consistent at least, and yet JC, who I doubt is unaware of them, doesn't suggest them as a source for translation:

http://www.non-fides.fr/
http://attaque.noblogs.org/
http://lechatnoiremeutier.noblogs.org/
http://exploitesenerves.noblogs.org/
http://cettesemaine.info/breves/

I believe Libération was actually maoist to begin with.
I do not recognise any of those sites, I'm not going to waste anyone's time by asking why on earth you think I would deliberately ignore radical sites.

Hopefully those that you have posted will be useful for bedfordtk

I'm going to have more free time fairly soon so I might have time to look up some stuff myself. I might even go on the next demo (I haven't been striking because I am not at work on that day. )

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May 12 2016 22:41
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The work code 'reform' was confirmed in the national assembly today when the government survived a vote of no-confidence.

So today is a momentous day in the struggle of the classes. The bourgeoisie achieves it's goal; it pushes through it's attack on the French working class, and hence the global working class, but at what price? What was the pressure force that determined the manner in which these new measures were passed through parliament? The force on the streets. And certainly not the most intense class warfare the world has witnessed; more like a circus (no disrespect to those who's heads were smashed in). Everything has changed, yet on the surface everything appears the same.

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Karl Marx, to the Workingmen's Club in Brussels, December 1847

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May 14 2016 09:34

http://www.taranisnews.com/post/144320329078/rennes-la-bataille-pour-le-...

This site, taranisnews, generally has good image and videos.

In Rennes the building that had been occupied for about a week was taken by the police yesterday morning. Later in the day a wild demonstration of a few hundred took place(in the link above). For today the police have banned gatherings in Rennes, according to mainstream media.

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May 14 2016 09:50

http://www.alternativelibertaire.org/

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May 14 2016 19:24

For bedfordtk or Jef C - worth translating - a critique of the unions during this movement -
http://garap.org/communiques/communique46.php

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May 15 2016 19:23

https://paris-luttes.info/nouvelle-arme-anti-lutte-l-5737?lang=fr

Can't completely understand what this article says but the police have been sending out orders banning individuals from the next demonstrations. The, again extended, state of emergency gives them some cover to do this.

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May 16 2016 09:53

I think this article is reporting the same, anti-fascist and anti-capitalists banned from attending demos: http://www.liberation.fr/france/2016/05/15/etat-d-urgence-des-militants-...

While Rennes police do their best dystopian aesthetic:

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May 17 2016 05:52

According to the Libération article they have banned anti-fascists and anti-capitalistes from the demos under the provisions of the state of emergency. They've also banned the journaliste NnoMan who filmed this video showing an injured protester that the CRS refused to help, As he has filmed lots of incidents of police using batons and gas grenades in illegal ways (according to his interview on the same page) this highlights the fact that the police have banned them all based on the fact that there is repeated sustained violence against the police. There are also any number of videos showing the police charging demos, using teargas and batons on people who are non-violent. I find it hard to believe that the police have the nerve to cry foul when they get a taste of their own medicine. They constantly resort to force with peaceful marches then complain when there is any resistance.

It mentions 'orders to appear' so I think they are like football banning orders where you have to go to a place, probably a police station, on the day of a demo.

The police commissioner had issued a letter condemning violence and stating that the policing was agreed with the unions. I read an account from a member of SUD stating that the 'liaison officer' was imposed, didn't negotiate and when they refused to give him permission to surround certain groups etc he simply imposed it. He reckons even the CGT refused outright.

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May 18 2016 16:18

This afternoon the police and its unions held their own demonstration against the rising anti-cop hatred. Pictures and accounts say they sealed of Place de la Republique for their own use and banned the planned counter-demo. The choice of Republique and the way the police closed off the whole area was a provocation and a show of strength. Still, a few hundred people who gathered nearby against the police gathering marched on their own demo during which there were clashes with the police and a police car was burnt. The media report the police are treating this as an attempted murder as officers were in the car when it was first attacked....

There were more strikes and clashes yesterday and further strikes on the transport today, as well as another day of demonstrations planned tomorrow.

https://www.rt.com/news/343450-police-car-ablaze-france/

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May 18 2016 19:32


Banks across Rennes are boarded up. It's interesting that when there is a lot of ferment in the streets like this, though I don't think banks are anything but empty holes, the image of these shut-down banks across town reflects the precariousness the status quo might feel when rebellion breaks out.

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May 18 2016 20:42
Thrasybulus wrote:
Still, a few hundred people who gathered nearby against the police gathering marched on their own demo during which there were clashes with the police and a police car was burnt. The media report the police are treating this as an attempted murder as officers were in the car when it was first attacked....


I think the cop's flashing a pistol about -0:34

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May 18 2016 22:06

JK, that video is amazing! Less spectacular but also pretty promising is this:

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May 19 2016 11:17

A former senior cop (?) describes rioters as "pre-terrorists" http://www.europe1.fr/societe/frederic-pechenard-les-casseurs-sont-respo...