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Brendan Barber egged at Goldsmiths

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Feb 22 2011 22:14
Brendan Barber egged at Goldsmiths

Can't think he can come to Lewisham and not face any opposition.

He got egged and chased off at the end of his talk, people were kicked out at the start of it for chanting "general strike" a banner saying TUC Tories Unofficial Cops was unveiled and he was heckled and shouted at throughout his speech. Well done comrades!

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Feb 22 2011 22:21

The struggle against austerity begins with the struggle against leftism!

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Feb 22 2011 22:30

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Feb 23 2011 00:37

today we expropriate the bourgeoisie's wine, tomorrow the world

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Feb 23 2011 01:41

Fucking ace! grin

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Feb 23 2011 18:00

http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=7746

here beginneth t'internet war with the leftists...

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Feb 23 2011 18:55

it's an interesting insight in the leftist mindset - they speak for the whole working class, so anything they don't agree with must be an attack on the labour movement.

Debord wrote:
The historical moment when Bolshevism triumphed for itself in Russia and when social-democracy fought victoriously for the old world marks the inauguration of the state of affairs which is at the heart of the domination of the modern spectacle: the representation of the working class radically opposes itself to the working class.

not that a gaggle of goldsmiths anarchies constitute the working class either like, but you get the point.

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Feb 23 2011 19:00

The meeting Barber was talking at was actually advertised by Lewisham Unison (possibly the least effective union branch in London) with a note saying "there will be no questions and answers".
Having had a glance at the Daily Mail-esque prejudices on show from the so-called "Left Unity" site mentioned above, this seems a minor quibble to them. Spectacular bad timing to have it on the same day in the same place that Goldsmiths invited a former Tory minister to open a new building.

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Feb 24 2011 00:13

Damn you Tommy Ascaso!!!!

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Feb 24 2011 00:29

who was it who wrote that article imagining what a fictional working class jane doe would have made of the millbank riot? that was amazing. 'i've never met a proletarian, but this is what an imaginary one would say, which just happens to be my view too'.

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Feb 24 2011 09:52
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Lewisham Unison (possibly the least effective union branch in London)

Come to Westminster, where we recently had a branch official come to a disciplinary meeting with a worker and tell the worker in question /in front of the boss/ that 'she should be lucky to have a job' and 'when management says jump, she should say how how'....

Seriously tho, nice work @ Goldsmiths.

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Feb 24 2011 15:01

actually we came late to the lecture, sorry meeting and didn't disrupt anything (aside from a bit of hecklering) until Barber's speech. When a group stood up holding a banner saying Brendan Barber blah,blah,blah and shouting for a general strike amongst other things. After this group was removed, we heckled Barber throughout his speech asking why he had done nothing to organised industrial action and taking the piss out of his pathetic statements, he never replied to any questions asked. Then after the first speeches from the floor we stood up with the TUC tories unoffical cops banner barrage him with question on why he was working so closely with the police, when our brothers and sisters in struggle (yes I really did say something like that) were having their heads caved in and wheelchair users were being unseated etc etc. after we left a couple of folks stayed to heckle.
It was one of the most boring, staid, arid, sterile dead meetings i have attended in quite awhile. Basically it had been organised by I think Socialist Action under the guise of the local Unison group, and consisted of of seven(?) top table speakers followed by some already selected speakers from the floor and no discussion. Essentially it was the left talking to itself, but acting as though they were talking(well making speeches) to the 'general public', who simply were not there. As it was, hardly anyone knew about the event even amongst the Goldsmiths students and staff. So the whole thing was completely pointless event where people told each other what they already know. The cuts are bad and are not economically justified and there is march on 26 march. Fucking appalling waste of time. i was well pleased when barber got egged at the end.

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Feb 25 2011 17:32

Well it is one thing to expropriate the wine of the bourgeoisie - but surely not the champagne of the aristocracy!

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Feb 25 2011 17:37

I had thought that you anarchistic types were sympathetic to leftism - isnt it all part of the same steaming cauldron of proley villainy?

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Feb 25 2011 17:42
Sir Roland Fontaine wrote:
I had thought that you anarchistic types were sympathetic to leftism

You thought wrong.

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Feb 26 2011 09:29

It gets worse:

Andy Newman wrote:
Following on from yesterday’s report of how anarchists disrupted a recent anti-cuts meeting, here is a short documentary on the role of anarchists in the Spanish Civil War, where for a brief period they controlled Barcelona and were the driving force behind the anarcho-syndicalist federation of workers, the CNT. Anarchists also claim the Paris Commune as an example of anarchism in practice, as do Marxists, which perhaps reflects the differing political undercurrents responsible for the factional disputes that played a significant role in the Commune’s demise. The problem is that both the aforementioned, while undoubtedly courageous and inspirational, were short lived, thus posing the question as to whether or not anarchism is a doctrine rooted in idealism and therefore unsustainable in reality.

http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=7747

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it seems a bit naive and leading to paint to use two military defeats by larger and well equipped opponents to write off an entire ideological strand

It seems a bit naive to think that an anarchist experiment would not be confronted by larger and better equiped opponents.
If you thinking has not got an answer to how you weild sufficient power to oppose the military force of the caPitalist class, then sure as hell you won’t have an answer to how your anarchist commune negotiates the tricky relationships of global trade and international relations.

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Feb 26 2011 11:32

How could you sustain a belief in statist socialism without slandering and misrepresenting anarchism? I mean the lesson of 20th century revolutions is surely that 'workers states' work out pretty well for workers... roll eyes

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Feb 26 2011 12:30

What's the affiliation of this Newman tool? Bone seems to suggest he's WRP, in which case, he deserves to get much more than egg in the face. Wish I'd known about the WRP-Gadafi thing on Tues, their Lewisham member was wandering around campus trying to pimp his genocide apologism...

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Feb 26 2011 18:35

A quick google found out he is from Swindon, was Socialist Unity candidate for Swindon N. at the last election and before that was in Respect. Crap politics, yes, but not in the same league as the WRP's flirtation with Gadafi.

The obvious question to throw back at him is where have Marxists/Leninists etc achieved power and held on to it, without becoming dictators? Or are his politics exclusively electoralist now?

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martin

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Feb 27 2011 11:13

I think he was in the SWP for many years, later, Socialist Alliance, Respect, and stayed on the Galloway side of the split. He's an apologist for the Iranian regime ("Iran - time for the West to butt out", "Iran - we need to undrstand not just shout") and cheers on 'socialist' China ("China celebrates 60 years of the Peoples’ Republic", "Class struggle in China", 2).

EDIT: I added some links so that people can verify what I said about Newman.

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Feb 26 2011 19:04

Truly the best friend of the working classes.

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Feb 26 2011 19:18

So the choices are theocratic capitalism, market stalinism and Brendan Barber on the one hand, or 'enemies of the labour movement' on the other? got it.

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Feb 27 2011 08:11

Newman is now in the Labour Party and he has endorsed an article he posted up entitled: "10 reasons the Left should support Labour Council Cuts".
He's an enemy of the working class good and proper. Every artcile and comment he has posted for years edges further to the right. What really scares him, as it does with Barber et al, is independent working class activity.

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Feb 27 2011 11:30

I do love the last comment in that thread:

Liam T wrote:
I am disgusted at Ian Bone’s remarks on his blog and at the shocking comments such as “Andy Newman is a C***” that this little twerp has published. I have taken legal advice and have been assured that Mr Bone has broken the law; in view of such I have made a formal complaint to the Metropolitan Police.

Oh noes, Ian Bone took the piss a bit, call the waaaambulance!

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Feb 27 2011 13:03

Is calling someone a cunt on the internet against the law?!

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Feb 27 2011 13:13

If it is this could bring down the English legal system overnight.

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Feb 27 2011 15:15

Libcom would essentially be D-Dossing the British legal system. You cunt. wink

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Feb 27 2011 15:34

Newman is both a turd and a lamentable exemplar of the state of British Leftism.
He was a SWPer when I was a member and left at a similar time about 2003.
he left over the sidelining of the socialist alliance and formed socialist unity with several other swp drop outs and green leftys, but then moved the motion at the SA conference which allowed the SWP to close the SA down. This broke up the group but left the blog in Newmans hands
He was critical of the respect until Galloways split with the swp when he became a enthusiastic acolyte of the Gallahway.
His rejoining the labour party coincided with the attempt by Lutfur Rahman (an islamist supportded by the Respecters) to become Labour mayor of tower hamlets, and a drive to recreate a bloc around Livingstone
Newman has obstensively broken with trotskyism, but only to embrace a paeleo stalinism, which adores any 'anti imperialist' power; Chinese geriocratic butchers or Iranian islamist psychopaths all have a place in Newmans pantheon of proletarian heroes.
recently Newman has become a stalwart of Catholicism, loving the Paedophiles of the papacy against the 'secularist imperialists' ie critics of religious obscrantism.
Newman now supports all religious bollocks (excepting of course jews) whicch is unsurprising as the politics he espouses has more to do with religion than any notion of the liberation of mankind

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Feb 27 2011 16:13

Doesn't Newman also have some bizarre admiration/interest for the East German dictatorship?