Anonymous expose Ron Paul White supremacist links

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Feb 2 2012 09:53
Anonymous expose Ron Paul White supremacist links

Saw this statement from Anonymous this morning, saying they hacked the websites and information of the American Third Position, and revealed extensive links with Ron Paul himself:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/02/01/ron-paul-exposed-as-white-supremacist-by-anonymous/

it's great stuff, but I'm not 100% sure if it's accurate, there doesn't seem to be any mainstream confirmation of this year. Anyone know any more? This hopefully should put a stop to any Occupy idiots having any sort of respect for Paul…

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Feb 2 2012 10:15

The same hack also revealed links between A3P and the BNP:

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Yep, Anonymous has done it again.

The 'hacktivist' group has exposed emails that seem to show links between an American far-right group and the the UK's far-right British National Party (BNP), the Guardian reports.

With "Operation Blitzkrieg", Anonymous infiltrated the website and emails of American Third Position (A3P), a white nationalist political group, and obtained emails in which it praised the BNP leader, Nick Griffin and mentioned conversations with BNP member and member of European Parliament (MEP) Andrew Brons.

The emails and private messages were published under the title "Good Night, White Pride".

(Guardian article.)

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Feb 2 2012 10:56

I dunno the tone being used is pretty suspect, sounds more like UAF or a similar US equivalent. Wouldn't surprise me if it was a liberal anti-fascist group using anonymous as a flag of convenience.

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Feb 2 2012 13:08

Er... anonymous is a flag of convenience? I mean I know hacker culture loves recursion, but accusing people of using a flag of convenience as a flag of convenience is overly meta-, even by those standards. Shome mishtake shurely?

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Feb 2 2012 13:19

well it isn't the first time Ron's hands have been caught in the white supremacist pie is it?

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Er... anonymous is a flag of convenience?

Good shout

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Er... anonymous is a flag of convenience?

Only partly, there's definitely an identifiable character to the 4-chan originated group Anonymous which has has a clear core engaging in known activities, as opposed to the concept anonymous.

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Feb 2 2012 13:48

OK, so long as we don't fall into the tabloid pattern of thinking that behind every name is a stable, fixed-membership group. Like the way the mainstream media treated previous anonymous monikers like the ALF, for example. Just because there are (potentially) identifiable core players, does not reduce a political phenonema to a simple conspiracy that discounts the network effect of unconnected participants etc. Let's not fall into simplistic "authentic anonymous" versus "fake anonymous" dichotomies.

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Feb 2 2012 16:15

Oh sure the distinction I was making was based on the work probably not being that of the original phenomenon as most people understand it, not that they shouldn't be allowed to say they're anonymous particularly (I mean how would you even enforce that?)

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Feb 2 2012 20:06

has anyone put these emails up? http://pirasec.com/ seems to be their site but the search doesn't work for me and the mail directories show me more spam (lol) than anything else

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Feb 2 2012 22:06

heh, a funny comment from the site:

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I did Nazi that coming!
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Feb 4 2012 06:53

I knew about this forum and I came here to defend Ron paul from the acusations and show the reasons the corporate media and elite agents are doing this difamation campaign against him (to not mention election fraud that is going on)

First of all everybody should listen this 3 minute speech, guess why the corporate media is working day and night to discredit Ron Paul with gossip journalism http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V36MT5lAMrc

and this one "CNN Cuts Off Soldier Who Voted For Paul and Spoke Out Against More War!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvzeowlqmBI&feature=related

Well, in the article there's 0 evidence. There's a lot of honest people relaed to anonympus,some support ron paul. But in fact it already happened,cointelpro agents disguised as anonymous.Seems to be the case.

Reasons to support Ron Paul.

-All the other presidential candidates would expand the wars (if world war 3 wont start this year). Obama sayed about Iran:"All cards are on table"

Check ron paul response: "When They Say Nothing Is Off The Table They're Even Talking About Nuclear First Strikes" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GfE5B_RN6U

Understand what he's trying to avoid?????

-He's the only candidate in the US that would really stop the endless wars and he is against intervention in other countries.He also exposed the attack on Libya as illegal because it was done without aproval of the congress and a declaration.What a racist, defending non intervention of criminal NATO in an african country.Also he says US should never go to war on United Nations resolutions. He's really anti globalization/new world order/IMF/Nafta/Bilderberg/world bank/WTO. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDXHbgpoI80

-He's the only candidate against NDAA that gives US government the right to detain,torture,kill US citizens without trial. His son also denounced US citizens can be sent to guantanamo without reason with this law. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxSVt1R4Iws

-He's not only against banks bailouts but he's against the Federal Reserve, the head of the beast. You guys know the history of the FED,the private bank that prints dollar out of nothing and that really controls the US since 1913?

-He wanna end the draconian TSA (also their x ray scanners cause cancer)

-He would end the drug war and released non violent prisioners related to that.You guys know the US has the biggest prison population in the world??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d2_qDKFNZI

And there's other reasons but thats the essential.Also,what a racist http://ronpaulthelunatic.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/ron-paul-doctor.jpg

He has a lot of black supporters I can list some if anyone doubt.

"Ron Paul’s racist politics and affiliations are already well known, being viciously anti-immigrant, anti-abortion and against gay marriage — not to mention having authored the racist “Ron Paul Papers"

1- He's not "anti-abortion", he would let the states decide

2-He's not anti-gay marriage, he says the government should not interfere,and to be honest, it's an irrelevant question http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se0NqJFMAlg

3-Well he would send the troops back home from the wars and use them to secure the borders,if you guys dont know federal agents in the US got caugth financing drug cartels (operation fast and furious),so for the folks that believe there's just oppressed workers in the frontier,well,there's homicides and corruption. He would limit the federal government and cut financing,so goodbye tax payer money funding gangs backed by the CIA.

4-It was discovered who wrote the newsletters and he has no relation to his campaign http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP-mYq4DaJI&feature=related

"making donations to the Anti Defamation League and many others"...

You guys know what the ADL is all about???? You guys know zionists financed "national socialism"? ADL silences every opposition to apartheid in palestine. To not mention AIPAC and the monopoly over corporate media and Hollywood industry.

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Feb 4 2012 07:17

WHAT?!

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Feb 4 2012 10:08

No, no, I can't be a racist I have a "lot of black supporters" roll eyes

Also, mate, you may have known about this forum, but you're sorely mistaken if you think we give a shit about voting in presidential elections.

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Feb 4 2012 10:44

Presidential elections be hanged, I want to know more about this "Zionists organised the Holocaust" thing. I mean I know those Jews are wily but murdering millions of themselves just to maintain their secret control over the world? That's one impressive piece of redirection.

Massive respect to End The Fed, I mean if it was me exposing a globe-trotting cabal of religion-inspired lunatics who'd mass-murdered their own people just to cement control over finance capital I'd be worried about being quietly disappeared, yet here you are, bravely spreading the word. Bravo sir, bravo.

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Feb 4 2012 10:43

We have a word for this kind of stuff, "Realsatire". Stuff you just couldn't make up...

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Feb 4 2012 10:47

FUCK! I missed that part.

Also, I love the German language for reasons just like that.

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Feb 4 2012 13:08

loooooool laugh out loud what an absurd turn in anti-semitism! 'did you know jews killed the jews'! laugh out loud

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loooooool laugh out loud what an absurd turn in anti-semitism! 'did you know jews killed the jews'! laugh out loud

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Feb 4 2012 15:04

Ask them what they think of the murdoch propaganda machine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA2ehvB-_Ac

I couldn't care less about elections when the "opposite" candidates are attached to the same strings,but when a candidate is fighting to end the imperialistic wars,police state (NDAA,TSA),end the FED, then I support him.

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No, no, I can't be a racist I have a "lot of black supporters" roll eyes

Also, mate, you may have known about this forum, but you're sorely mistaken if you think we give a shit about voting in presidential elections.

Ask them what they think of the murdoch propaganda machine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA2ehvB-_Ac

I couldn't care less about elections when the "opposite" candidates are attached to the same strings,but when a candidate is fighting to end the imperialistic wars,police state (NDAA,TSA),end the FED, then I support him.

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loooooool laugh out loud what an absurd turn in anti-semitism! 'did you know jews killed the jews'! laugh out loud

and before you call him "anti-semitic"

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Feb 4 2012 15:25
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I couldn't care less about elections when the "opposite" candidates are attached to the same strings,but when a candidate is fighting to end the imperialistic wars,police state (NDAA,TSA),end the FED, then I support him.

People had the same illusions about Obama (just think of Guantanamo), look what it got 'em.

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Feb 4 2012 15:28

I wasn't calling 'him' anti-semitic, I was calling your stupid post anti-semitic wink.

Not being a bush voter that picture matters not one iota for me neutral

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Feb 4 2012 15:35
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Presidential elections be hanged, I want to know more about this "Zionists organised the Holocaust" thing. I mean I know those Jews are wily but murdering millions of themselves just to maintain their secret control over the world? That's one impressive piece of redirection.

Massive respect to End The Fed, I mean if it was me exposing a globe-trotting cabal of religion-inspired lunatics who'd mass-murdered their own people just to cement control over finance capital I'd be worried about being quietly disappeared, yet here you are, bravely spreading the word. Bravo sir, bravo.

The zionists dont see themselves as jews, they think they are superior to them. A lot of jews are openly against zionism. Rotschild zionism is the problem,and when some people can't understand that difference they defend zionist organizations (ADL in the article) that support palestine apartheid.Also the reason the zionists try to sabotage Ron paul is because he wanna cut all financial support for Israel,tax payer money financing the regime.

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Rotschild zionism is the problem

Ever thought of the possibility that Ron Paul is a Zionist lizard man in a giant fish bearsuit?

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I couldn't care less about elections when the "opposite" candidates are attached to the same strings,but when a candidate is fighting to end the imperialistic wars,police state (NDAA,TSA),end the FED, then I support him.

People had the same illusions about Obama (just think of Guantanamo), look what it got 'em.

Thats right! Look at Obama top financiers- Goldman sachs megabank, just like his new "opponent" Romney. Obama administration not just continued Bush policies, but it expanded...

Ron Paul dont receive donations from lobyists,megabanks and corporations, most of his support comes from soldiers,navy,airforce people and civilians that wanna stop US government acting like "the police of the world" (in his words).

When almost all policitians are evil,puppets of war profiteers, I agree it's hard to dont suspect of him. I have the conviction he's really genuine,in 30 years he dont change positions and his voting record in congress support it.Also I cant understand how he can be one more puppet when he talked against even the CFR (controled by david rockefeller),the neo cons/project for new american century,H1N1 vaccines scam, US going to war under UN resolutions,etc etc... I really cant understand why a puppet would bring this discussions that the corporate media always hide. but well look for yourself time will tell who he is

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Feb 4 2012 16:32

Self-proclaimed socialists are enforcing austerity in Europe. Now, I think Ron Paul is a racist, homophobic, right-wing, capitalist piece of shit, but even politicians who do have the best of working class intentions are beholden to logic of capital. By being managers of capitalism (private or state), their actions--once again despite best intentions--are in large part determined by the economic system under which they operate.

So this isn't about integrity or principles or corruption or even financiers (in the UK, the Labour Party is 90% funded by the trade unions and its leaders opposed recent mass pension/austerity strike). It's about the nature of the state and the fact that all politicians are objectively members of the ruling class.

In regard to Paul in particular, you're neglecting to mention that he wants to privatise fucking everything, remove the "privileged status" of unions, and destroy whatever semblance of a welfare state is available in the US. Isn't he even against having a minimum wage because it's "not in the constitution" or some shit?

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Feb 4 2012 16:40

Seriously this guy has got to the point where he's backing Ron Paul as the guy to save the world and thinks "Zionists" are behind all the bad things. I doubt he's prepared to take on board that no-one needs to conspire when inequality is systemic to capitalism itself.

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Isn't he even against having a minimum wage because it's "not in the constitution" or some shit?

If only the ideal market mechanisms of the classical economists would work... imagine!! Prosperity for everyone!! Minimum wages are fucking it up!

Must be them Zionist Lizards behind it - who else in their right mind would enforce laws about voluntary exchange relations!! Wake up to the truth, people! Poverty is created by lizards!

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Feb 4 2012 16:53
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Oh, how I wish he would wear that suit.

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There's no women on that tree...Parthenogenesis? I guess they really are Grey-Lizard-Nazi-Communists. RON PAUL 2012, etc.

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Feb 4 2012 16:55

Yeah, I actually think Rail has the best technique for dealing with these sorts of nutters. Although, he is saying the EXACT SORT OF THINGS a shape-shifting zionist lizard would say just to throw us off the scent...