Lebanse Army and Israel

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Hassan Dbouk
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Aug 11 2010 10:04
Lebanse Army and Israel

from about a week an battle between the lebanese army and israel army was happened, which lead to kill 2 lebanese soldiers and a lebanese journalist and an israeli soldier.
this battle happened when the israeli army want to cut a trees from an little demilitarized zone behind the lebanese-israeli border in the lebanese land. which lead to the battle for a few hours.
All know that lebanon and israel are enemies to each other, because israel is desire the water's wealth in lebanon, as an economic reason. Also Israel occupied about 3 lebanese villages.
also all know that the lebanese army is the most weeken army in the area, and the israeli army is the stronger.

My Question is do you agree that lebanese army must get armed for defend in the face of the israeli army or not.
and must anarchist in lebanon support these process or not, and what they have to do.

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Aug 11 2010 10:31

I've actually followed this a bit from the Israeli side, so perhaps my view of it is skewed, but what actions has the IDF made to acquire this water wealth? And which Lebanese villages are you referring to?

In any case, much like for anarchists in Israel, the answer is a resounding "no". Anarchists, and libertarian socialists in general, have no business supporting imperialist war. On the contrary, they should always provide an analysis critical of ruling class jingoism and war-mongering. In Lebanon, I imagine that should be the exposure of Hezbollah's need to depend on strife with Israel, but as I said, I am not familiar enough with Lebanon. You could probably tell me a lot more about it.

In Israel, this means criticizing the rising jingoism and insularity, exposing and reiterating the IDF's gung-ho attitude and the flimsiness of their excuses to kill civilians "for security reasons", and oppose actual war while it happens, like during the summer of 2006.

Finally, cross-border cooperation should allow a coordination of action which will be stronger than what any organization on one side can do. Unfortunately, actual contact between activists, while attempted online during the conflict, is difficult, and can be dangerous, as the Israeli security agencies tend to crack down on such contact as a crime akin to espionage (contact with a foreign agent), and I imagine things are similar on the other side of the border, as well.

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Aug 11 2010 11:11

Lebanon is of the most rich country by water wealth in the area especially the Litani River and that what Isreal want it want the water of litani because it's so helpful to it in the agriculture and manufacture.
Israel occupy the khajar village, kafarshoba hills, and sheb'a farms.
Tojiah, thnx for your reply

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Aug 11 2010 12:08
Hassan Dbouk wrote:
Lebanon is of the most rich country by water wealth in the area especially the Litani River and that what Isreal want it want the water of litani because it's so helpful to it in the agriculture and manufacture.

I see. So you think that if the Lebanese Army or Hezbollah were too weak, Israel would find an excuse to take over Southern Lebanon all the way to the Litani in order to gain access to the water there? I'm not sure how likely they are to pursue that, specifically, especially now with the development of water-treatment facilities on the Mediterranean. They couldn't sell staying in in 2006, and they eventually did not turn the most recent clash into a big land war, choosing to let UNIFIL mediate, instead.
Anyway, that is an issue I've never heard raised in Israel. The biggest resource issue we've been hearing about in relation to Lebanon are the new natural gas deposits, where the dispute is about which territorial waters they're in.

Hassan Dbouk wrote:
Israel occupy the khajar village, kafarshoba hills, and sheb'a farms.

I wasn't aware of the second one.

Hassan Dbouk wrote:
Tojiah, thnx for your reply

Thank you for posting. This forum needs more input from the Middle East, especially outside of Israel. smile