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Nov 13 2006 16:53
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General thread for discussing the indexes (i.e. the pages you see when you click - home news library forums history organise features thought).

All of them need work, so any ideas/requests please post them up here.

Initial ideas from stuff people have already said:

library index - we're probably going to do manual short lists for authors/groups and tags - maybe 20-30 each, then link to the really long automatically generated ones.

news index - could do with links to the regional and industrial pages. Maybe space for a featured article so longer stuff doesn't disappear so quick.

any comments post them up!

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Nov 13 2006 16:57

Organise
needs the 9 or 10 top level books showing, ideally with teasers. could be done manually...

latest addition teaser would be cool, and "featured" random article too. featured maybe above cos not many new additions...

thought
needs something manual, or just a featured random article block on top with a list of the other articles titles.

News
yeah needs maybe 3 latest additions with thumbs + teasers, then regional latest headlines, ideally crammed into small space like BBC news. links to latest news by section, a few key tags, etc.

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Nov 13 2006 17:12
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Organise
needs the 9 or 10 top level books showing, ideally with teasers. could be done manually...

latest addition teaser would be cool, and "featured" random article too. featured maybe above cos not many new additions...

Easy to set up panel with static teasers + random article.

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needs something manual, or just a featured random article block on top with a list of the other articles titles.

Either of those good yeah.

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News
yeah needs maybe 3 latest additions with thumbs + teasers, then regional latest headlines, ideally crammed into small space like BBC news. links to latest news by section, a few key tags, etc.

Haven't worked out how to make the regional feeds tiny yet

http://libcom.org/news/sectors they're way too big.

TBH I reckon we should consider 3 latest additions.

Then static links to regions and sectors - maybe even a world map for regions?

Then key tags - maybe a feed, and we just pick a different tag every few days - so have a "featured tag"? Maybe the same for featured articles.

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Nov 13 2006 17:35

For thought I would say just have it like the old site index, by type of article or something.

History needs the topics and topics graphics

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Nov 13 2006 23:13

history won't work with topics any more, because before everything fitted into a topic, now it doesn't. everything in history is in a region though. could have some key topic areas though - biogs, strikes, etc.

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Nov 13 2006 23:35

- also need to do libcommunity index with short intro text, libcommunity feed, user blogs feed, maybe random weird fan-art pic, or something, etc.

- comrades reunited index would be cool, with description, how to use it, with links to some groups we have members who used to be in (have to do manually for now i guess)

- blog index - just needs header and a box or two with links to a couple of bits i outline in "tidying up blog thread"

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Nov 17 2006 16:20

shit we forgot the most important one - the main index!

hmmm, i spose it's best to base it on the sections rather than regions or sectors.

i wonder if right at the top we should have say a thing "promoted to front page" - which we basically make the most recent decent article (of which we usually have at least one a day) with thumbnail + teaser.

Then afterwards big links to each main section with either latest headlines/teasers/thumbs or a random article for the non-frequently updated sections like organise, thought

er, then i dunno

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Nov 17 2006 18:10

Yeah i agree with yuor suggestions john. And agree with promoted to front page - would just call it featured article though.

Can u explain about history and topics - why dont they it anymore? I thought they were really usefull

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Nov 17 2006 18:56

Agree with all that about main index. Do we want to use promoted to front page for that? Get rid of the 5 articles down the bottom then? (I think we probably should).

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Nov 17 2006 19:02

yeah i think so catch

Mike Harman
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Nov 17 2006 19:09

Cool.

We need to come up with a way of doing features then (maybe a tag for "features"?). But otherwise that sounds great.

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Nov 17 2006 21:59
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Can u explain about history and topics - why dont they it anymore? I thought they were really usefull

Every history article was forced into one of the 8 or 9 key topics. when we moved over to tagging we stopped doing that. so while every history article is in one of the 7 or 8 regions, they're in dozens (hundreds?) of tags/topics.

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Nov 19 2006 02:45

Ok i see - but wouldn't it still be useful to pick out a number of general topics - like 15 - and then have them displayed on the index? Or could have the topics/tags rotating perhaps so 15 different were always displayed?

I think it would be good to have some core ones, because it encourages people to browse.

Same with regions, like right now stupid heades arent links. Must be a way to fix taht

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Nov 19 2006 11:27

We can do linked headers on main pages with a bit of hackiness, it's just really annoying. Worth doing if it's for a permanent index though.

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Nov 19 2006 11:41

yeah definitely worth it. I mean could you do it by setting up a page with RSS feeds in rather than view boxes?

rkn: yeah topics/tags, would be good to maybe have 10 rotating tags, of the most populus ones. If that's not possible maybe we could just stick up 10-15 selected ones randomly - ones which are really good and/or current.

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Nov 19 2006 11:44

Nah we can do it with view boxes, it just means hiding the title then adding a new title with a link in one or two places. It works fine but takes ages, so we'd need to decide what we wanted first, then do it.

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Dec 30 2007 19:06

OK this thread is old, but it'll do.

I've made some changes to the news and history indexes so they're a bit less broken. Hopefully it'll make them a slightly better starting point for adding things to - whereas they were really hard to work out before.

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Jan 3 2008 12:01

yeah nice one, big improvement. i think the forum blocks are best in the right column though. in the forums related blocks in other sections are on the right, it'd be intuitive for it to be the same the other way round. also it'd look tidier and would prioritise content over forums.

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yeah nice one, big improvement.

Cool. it's a start at least.

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i think the forum blocks are best in the right column though. in the forums related blocks in other sections are on the right, it'd be intuitive for it to be the same the other way round.

I was quite pleased with how they balance the layout, but yeah I guess so. As those pages get longer it'll be better in the right column anyway.

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prioritise content over forums.

This is true. Unless we keep a really close eye on forums there can be any old crap in them, so best not to have viagra adds in the middle of our news index.

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Jan 3 2008 15:32

yeah - one big thing is most people don't have the big admin blocks on the right like we do!