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Feb 28 2005 17:21
Community Action - June 18th [Old thread - locked]

Community Action

Organising in Our Local Areas.

Saturday 18th June

Date changed!!!! New thread in Organise forum, please discuss there - admin

Haringey Solidarity Group and Hackney Independent will be holding a one day conference on community organising at Oxford House in Bethnal Green. There will be several workshops throughout the day, with a full schedule to be posted later on. The resurgence of interest in community organising - both in terms of groups starting up and ideas put forward in radical publications - makes this an ideal time for various groups across the country to meet and discuss past and future activity, and for those who aren't involved in a local group to come and meet other people with similar ideas. Information about HI and HSG can be found at

www.hackneyindependent.org

www.haringey.org.uk

Oxford House, Derbyshire Street, London

Bethnal Green Tube/BR

8 or 388 stops 50 metres away.

106, 254 5 minutes walk.

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Feb 28 2005 17:38

this is going to be the most important event of the year, i predict red n black star

a funny coincidence too, because i was chatting about politics with my dad, and he reckons anarchism is a good idea, is common sense, etc. but that the term "anarchism" is so loaded with negative ideas and imagery that it is unusable, and he suggested "community action" as an alternative.

Mike Harman
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Feb 28 2005 18:11

get 'im dahn there then.

Caiman del Barrio
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Feb 28 2005 22:53

What day of the week is this??

And why's it only one day?? In the spirit of community organising, I see nothing wrong with having a barbecue round whoever has the biggest garden (for practical reasons obviously) then watching the footy on the telly (MOTD obviously, noone's rich enough to have Sky) and then letting the hippies camp in the local park while the working class types skivvy down on the sofa with blankets.

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Feb 28 2005 23:43
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Saturday 11th June

I'll be standing at the door with scissors snipping the hair of any hippy that wants to come in (and that includes you Gav).

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Mar 1 2005 00:14
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I'll be standing at the door with scissors snipping the hair of any hippy that wants to come in (and that includes you Gav).

no! not my beautiful flowing locks

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Mar 1 2005 10:29

I'm coming, even though I live in South London and am an antisocial prick.

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Mar 1 2005 10:41

you are pretty anti-social, you posted this a few days ago~:

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Where I live is in London, there is nothing within the borough I live in that have the slightest connection to, there is no community under capitalism (remember that old chestnut!).

oh no wait, that was raw's post eek wink

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Mar 1 2005 20:43

just to confirm this event is on Saturady 11th June. If people need acommodation after a piss up following the event, let either m'self or Catch or others involved know and we will try to acommodate.

(shit HOW do you spell acommodate? embarrassed

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Mar 1 2005 21:28

it's fixed now.

two Cs by the way, not as bad as posting two different dates for the same event. Mr. T

rich
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Mar 6 2005 01:25

Shit!

It's on the same day we booked for the Norwich Anarchist Bookfair. ... I will see if we can change that day. No, just remembered. All our expensive glossy publicity has got that date on it.... Shit! Wanted to go to this event, and I imagine other norwich anarchists wanted to go too. Hope it goes well!

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Mar 7 2005 01:06

Sorry Norwich dude, blame Munster's lack of comic timing for the lack of CAG members at your do.

Actually fuck it, blame HSG and HI for breaking with "anarchist" tradition by doing something worthwhile.

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Mar 7 2005 07:13
Alan_is_Fucking_Dead wrote:
Sorry Norwich dude, blame Munster's lack of comic timing for the lack of CAG members at your do.

Actually fuck it, blame HSG and HI for breaking with "anarchist" tradition by doing something worthwhile.

This bookfair was booked two months after the last one. So no, dont go blaming Munster for anything.

And a bookfair is a fucking bookfair so shove your sectarian bullshit up your fucking arse.

rich wrote:
Shit!

It's on the same day we booked for the Norwich Anarchist Bookfair. ... I will see if we can change that day. No, just remembered. All our expensive glossy publicity has got that date on it.... Shit! Wanted to go to this event, and I imagine other norwich anarchists wanted to go too. Hope it goes well!

We need to send a couple of bods to this if possible. Have put it on new website.

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Mar 7 2005 08:29
Alan_is_Fucking_Dead wrote:
Sorry Norwich dude, blame Munster's lack of comic timing for the lack of CAG members at your do.

Actually fuck it, blame HSG and HI for breaking with "anarchist" tradition by doing something worthwhile.

Sorry alan, but your talking bollocks mate.

Realistically its a somehwat silly mistake on HI/HSG's part, if this was a recently booked event then I personally think they should be changing the date, seeing as the Norwich Bookfair is booked well inn advance and costs a lot of money to put on.

I'd be suprised if someone hasn't contacted HSG about tis already, afterall I would imagine HSG and the people involved in this would want a presence at the bookfair confused

To be honest it confuses me, i mean if forced to choose i would go to the HSG/HI event, but it seems a ridiculous choice to have to make given how easily the community meeting could be re-scheduled this far in advance.

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Mar 7 2005 08:38
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Alan_is_Fucking_Dead wrote:
Sorry Norwich dude, blame Munster's lack of comic timing for the lack of CAG members at your do.

Actually fuck it, blame HSG and HI for breaking with "anarchist" tradition by doing something worthwhile.

Sorry alan, but your talking bollocks mate.

Realistically its a somehwat silly mistake on HI/HSG's part, if this was a recently booked event then I personally think they should be changing the date, seeing as the Norwich Bookfair is booked well inn advance and costs a lot of money to put on.

I'd be suprised if someone hasn't contacted HSG about tis already, afterall I would imagine HSG and the people involved in this would want a presence at the bookfair confused

To be honest it confuses me, i mean if forced to choose i would go to the HSG/HI event, but it seems a ridiculous choice to have to make given how easily the community meeting could be re-scheduled this far in advance.

Thanks for you comments. Although this was booked ages in advance we decided to promote it from March 1st, three months before event. I don't think anyone can be blamed for this situation.

The last thing we want is any bad feeling about the two events on the same day. Shit happens.

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Mar 8 2005 17:23

sorry it is very unlikey we could reschedule this due to venue suitability and availibility - the fact is no one told us about the norwich bookfair - there is so much else going on this year it would be impossible to avoid everything...

shit happens as the poster above said

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Mar 8 2005 23:34
Alan_is_Fucking_Dead wrote:
Sorry Norwich dude, blame Munster's lack of comic timing for the lack of CAG members at your do.

Actually fuck it, blame HSG and HI for breaking with "anarchist" tradition by doing something worthwhile.

'Shock Horror - revolution cancelled as double booked!'

Yeah, cos here in Norwich, Munster has the sole responsibility for organizing the bookfair - it's all his fucking fault. roll eyes We tend to be a bit too busy trying to actually ORGANISE things to stand around pointing fingers at each other going 'nah nah nah it's your fault' anyway.

In whay way is it not 'worthwhile'? Fuck you, a hell of a lot of effort is going into this event, and even if it's not up your street, instead of slating it, the decent thing to do would be to wish us success. We're putting in a fuck load of hard work to do something that we think is really important here, it may not be exactly what you would of chosen, but instead of bitching about us, get off your arse and do something more 'worthwhile'.

kalabine Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:23 pm Post subject:

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sorry it is very unlikey we could reschedule this due to venue suitability and availibility - the fact is no one told us about the norwich bookfair - there is so much else going on this year it would be impossible to avoid everything...

That's cool, thanks for the thought, I'm sure the anarchist community won't implode due to there being too many events...it's better than there not being enough to choose from! To be fair though, I don't think any of us were aware of your event, and as Norwicher said, it was booked 2 months after the last one.....it's just one of those things - at least we've all learnt a lesson in communication! Anyway, I'm sure both events will be wicked and I hope it all goes well with you...I'll probably be chained to an oven flipping veggie burgers all day.... grin

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Mar 9 2005 01:30

I was just being an asshole. Don't judge me on it. Some dude from Norwich does a good distro (for books anyway, didn't find much music I was into).

I'll be passing the bookfair up definito though. Sorry kids, I'm sure you'll miss me being a dick everywhere. Maybe I should do a UK tour and piss off every group all over the country?? It could be a fundraiser for buying me all 6 releases on X-Claim Records, about which I would be obsessed that I would drop out of the anarchist scene and stay in my bedroom discussing early Boston hardcore with my cat.

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Mar 9 2005 14:59

I couldn't really give a flying fuck whether you come to the bookfair or not - that wasn't my point. I just think it's pathetic when people are trying to do something within the anarchist movement, and the initial response from other people like you is whinging, bitching negativity. Devisive shit like that is a waste of fucking time - yeah, I'm sure you get to score a few points and look like the big man for a few minutes, but this constant bullshit is doing a lot of fucking damage to the movement, both internally and to the publics perception of us. Grow the fuck up - this sort of attitude is getting fucking boring and it's holding us all back.

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Mar 10 2005 00:58

I wasn't bitching negatively, I was cracking an unfair joke. At least read my shit dude. And chill, bookfairs are boss.

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Mar 10 2005 12:03

Perhaps another one could be put on for later in the year? Because I'm really interested in that but need to go the bookfair for various reasons.

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Mar 10 2005 12:41
Saii wrote:
Perhaps another one could be put on for later in the year? Because I'm really interested in that but need to go the bookfair for various reasons.

if someone else wanted to organise it - i'm sure we would support it - we certainly would hope that it becomes an annual event at the least

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Mar 10 2005 21:13

hope it goes well. if i'm anywhere around that really hard to get to place called North London (some place down the end of the country isn't it??) i'd come but i probably won't be.

good luck with the day. the stuff people are doing thats on the website is cool (specially the mention of the Ministry of Truth in Manc. hee hee grin )

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Mar 10 2005 21:18

East London Dahhhling.

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Mar 10 2005 21:30

its all one big blob tacked on the end of the country to me like someone spilt a bottle of ink at the top of a river...

it said north london on one of the websites luv

confused

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Mar 10 2005 21:44

Ah ok. Haringey is North London, Bethnal Green is East London (although north of the river).

It's a shame about the clash. Maybe there should be a pre-publicity clash diary for different groups to avoid this kind of thing.

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Mar 20 2005 16:27

just a warning to let people know we are trying to reschedule the community organising gathering to avoid the clash with the book fair - anyone got any other stuff that might clash that we should know about?

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Mar 21 2005 12:15
kalabine wrote:
just a warning to let people know we are trying to reschedule the community organising gathering to avoid the clash with the book fair - anyone got any other stuff that might clash that we should know about?

Hmmm later in June than that and lots of people will be going on holiday...

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Apr 9 2005 23:29

This isn't locked...

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Apr 10 2005 13:31

Whoops it is now

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