Anti racism rally in belfast today

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cleosugar
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Oct 30 2004 22:22
Anti racism rally in belfast today

With up to 3 racist attacks carried out a day in northern ireland, the ARN had organised a rally to highlight the probelm. The south belfast area which has the highest number of racist attacks, the anti racism contigent set off from shaftsbury sq at 1.00pm, with only 25 marchers, the police said we could not march unless under parade commission rules we had stewards to protect the marchers and maintain order.

We set off with 4 stewards to walk towards the city centre , myself being one to protect the marchers. Along the way we didn't encounter much aggro, we met up with the west belfast anti racist contigent, with around 2 thousand marchers, and walked to the city centre, with only 4 stewards to escourt thousands of marchers, I fell behind to escourt/protect disabled anti racists some of whom had cerebral palsy, and couldn't keep up with the main marchers, when we encountered a lone faceless fascist hiding in the crowd of onlookers shouting, 'long live fascism', this visibly initmidated the vunerable disabled anti racist marchers, but because i had no loud speaker to communicate the probelm with the other stewards, who were half way up Royal avenue. My first instinct was to dive into where the fascist was and beat the shit out of him, but I had to stay with the disabled marchers to protect them from attack and let the fascists attack first, i also had to protect the Sein fein contigent which was directly infront of us, it took all my will power to hold myself back as I do jujitsu and taekwondo. In the end the march passed off peacefully, the stewards further on ahead encountered abuse at the junction of lower north street, but that was countered by the main crowd of marchers.

I feel the organisers could have done more to coordinate response to fascists and to ensure that the vunerable disabled anti racists were accomodated in terms of providing communication devices to convey any probelms and weren't left to face fascist abuse by themselves.

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Nov 1 2004 15:57
cleosugar wrote:
With up to 3 racist attacks carried out a day in northern ireland, the ARN had organised a rally to highlight the probelm. The south belfast area which has the highest number of racist attacks, the anti racism contigent set off from shaftsbury sq at 1.00pm, with only 25 marchers, the police said we could not march unless under parade commission rules we had stewards to protect the marchers and maintain order.

We set off with 4 stewards to walk towards the city centre , myself being one to protect the marchers. Along the way we didn't encounter much aggro, we met up with the west belfast anti racist contigent, with around 2 thousand marchers, and walked to the city centre, with only 4 stewards to escourt thousands of marchers, I fell behind to escourt/protect disabled anti racists some of whom had cerebral palsy, and couldn't keep up with the main marchers, when we encountered a lone faceless fascist hiding in the crowd of onlookers shouting, 'long live fascism', this visibly initmidated the vunerable disabled anti racist marchers, but because i had no loud speaker to communicate the probelm with the other stewards, who were half way up Royal avenue. My first instinct was to dive into where the fascist was and beat the shit out of him, but I had to stay with the disabled marchers to protect them from attack and let the fascists attack first, i also had to protect the Sein fein contigent which was directly infront of us, it took all my will power to hold myself back as I do jujitsu and taekwondo. In the end the march passed off peacefully, the stewards further on ahead encountered abuse at the junction of lower north street, but that was countered by the main crowd of marchers.

I feel the organisers could have done more to coordinate response to fascists and to ensure that the vunerable disabled anti racists were accomodated in terms of providing communication devices to convey any probelms and weren't left to face fascist abuse by themselves.

Very good report, keep practising your martial arts and you'll get the chance to stick it on the fash next time;)

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Nov 2 2004 09:58

This was a pretty big march, and it is quite possible that this 'lone faceless fascist' shouted 'long live fascism'. I'd take that as true and as something that would understandably enrage anyone taking part in the march who heard it and could obviously intimidate the marchers cleosugar mentions.

There most likely was some abuse at the junction of North Street but lets be clear the march was not set upon by fascists by any stretch of the imagination. There were some quite suspect looking skinheads hanging about watching the march around Primark at the junction of Royal Avenue and Castle Street but as one of them was wearing an Aids awareness ribbon they may well just have been skinheads (ie not fascists).

There may only have been four stewards on the smaller feeder march from south Belfast but I saw more than four stewards on the main march. But the origonal report seems to make the mistake of seeing a need for stewards to police and 'protect' the rest of the march. The march was unlikely to be attacked due to the numbers taking part, even if it had have been considerably smaller this would still have been true. Many of the marchers would be extremely patronised by your heroic attempts to protect them which hyou seem to think can only be done by stewards - a bit of a false division there.

"My first instinct was to dive into where the fascist was and beat the shit out of him, but I had to stay with the disabled marchers to protect them from attack and let the fascists attack first, i also had to protect the Sein fein contigent which was directly infront of us, it took all my will power to hold myself back as I do jujitsu and taekwondo."

Come on, one fascist turns into attacking fascists (plural) in the space of a sentence - a bit of melodrama here. Protecting the Sinn Fein contingent directly in front of you may make it seem that your section had not been left very far behind at all and is a little short of ridiculous. Were Sinn Fein aware of your protection of them? Would it not have been more likely that they and others would have protected your section of the march had there been a real threat of attack from fascists - as many other marchers would have undoubtedly done whether the wore dayglo bibs or not (stewards were of course wearing these type of bibs).

Also you say that you met up with the West Belfast feeder parade of a couple of thousand, the West Belfast feeder parade made it way to the Art College prior to the start of the main parade. There were some very impressive red West Against Racism Network flags at the head of this group (all very Maoist looking actually) and there was an impressive contingent of a couple of hundred people on it. The couple of thousand I'd guess was closer to the size of the overall march (put at 2500) that set off from the Art College to the City Hall with the West Belfast contingent making up a part of it.

Yeah march organisers should have provided better means of communication for stewards if only so people were aware of what was going on or potentially going on along the length of the march.

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Nov 2 2004 11:17
Boulcolonialboy wrote:
There were some quite suspect looking skinheads hanging about watching the march around Primark at the junction of Royal Avenue and Castle Street but as one of them was wearing an Aids awareness ribbon they may well just have been skinheads (ie not fascists).

Bloody hell - the gay skinhead look has even spread to Belfast! And I thought you all still dressed like Feargal Sharkey circa "Teenage Kicks"

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Nov 12 2004 22:24

fascist outs never underestimates the opportunistic cowardiness of fascists, fascists are reknowned for their cowardiness, that's why the lone fascist bully boy wanker waited to heckled an anti fasicst with cerebral palsy.

Smell the stench of jealously and fascist bitterness, you know very well my capabilities, I always make sure there's no witnesses.

cleosugar
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Nov 12 2004 22:46

Stewards were not neeeded to police the march, the police insisted the march could not continue without stewards due to Parade commission rulings. I was a steward not to police the march but to hopefully coordinate a response to fascists.

The main body of the march were made up of mainly white middle class types, who seemed to be out on another middle class jolly jont, and who would have been ill prepared to deal with violent attacks from fascist bully boys. Alot of the ethnic minority population stayed away because they have suffered violent cowardly rascist attacks, and did not feel it was safe to attend the march, so there is a need for a trained physical response to fascists, to gurantee peoples personal safety. by the way i'm a an oul doll but I take the threat of cowardly fascist bully boys seriously which is why i do martial arts.

cleosugar
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Nov 12 2004 23:24

watching and waiting wrongly assumes the stereotypical fascist is a skinhead, many fascists these days are not skinheads, some are long haired, goth hippy/metaller/biker types, some are just ordinary looking or binky old boys.

There is a large contigent of anti fascist skinhead RASH and SHARP and Anti NF skinz in belfast, to be on the lookout for skinheads is just plain ignorance. The original skinheads in the 1960s were all anti fascist rudeboys. I train with fascist out skinheads/rudeboys, many of whom do martial arts too.

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Nov 15 2004 13:35

Do you two know each other?