We Have Our Own Concept of Time and Motion, AutoItalia, 25th-28th August

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Aug 20 2011 20:02
We Have Our Own Concept of Time and Motion, AutoItalia, 25th-28th August

Hello again,
I'm involved in running this event on self-organisation and autonomist marxism which I thought may be of some interest to people (and not at all to others)–here's a blurb

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Auto Italia in collaboration with Federico Campagna, Huw Lemmey, Michael Oswell and Charlie Woolley present 'We have own concept of Time and Motion': a four day event devoted to the idea and practice of self-organisation.

Featuring a temporary bookshop run by the new cooperative organisation Book Bloc, archival material selected by participating artists and commissioned furniture by Charlie Woolley, the exhibition space will become a base for the production of new work and ideas. Through a series of events this project will investigate pre-conceived ideas of self-organisation and the role of gender politics within this. The project will examine models of organisation especially from the position of an artist-run space, how this fits within a neo-liberal framework and is potentially complicit in the growing precarity of all labour. The project title references the fourth issue of the publication 'Class War', which controversially introduced Autonomist ideas to the London anarchist scene in the mid 1980s.

Workshops and panel discussions will be held throughout the event by Auto Italia, Book Bloc and the Deterritorial Support Group, along with daily podcasts recorded and distributed online. A new publication will be produced outlining the live programme along with interviews and discussions from Art Torrents and AAAAARG amongst others, with an additional supplement made during the course of the project in the exhibition space by Michael Oswell.

'We have our own idea of Time and Motion' comes from a network of artists who have formed around Auto Italia. It is a product of artists finding affinity with each others’ projects, ideas and aspirations. It draws on the intangible expertise, knowledge and network which Auto Italia is a part of and will produce new information that can develop a wider narrative for the future of grass-roots projects and artist-led organisations.

and there's a timetable of events on the website here.

The event is at the old Alan Day garage on the Old Kent Road. It'd be good to have people along to participate, give opinions etc.

solidarity

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Aug 29 2011 01:10

The event has tumblr website:

http://autoitalia.tumblr.com/

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Sep 6 2011 15:00

As Nina Power pointed out there's a problem with these sort of events in that you expect to discover/ be told the correct line, but does anyone have any thoughts on the discussions and Q & A sessions?

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Sep 6 2011 15:35

I heard this gentrified Peckham?

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Sep 7 2011 08:04

Hey

I've listened to the Mark Fisher and Marina Vishmidt talk which I quite enjoyed. I really like Mark Fisher's writings and I think he's quite clear in explaining concepts. Marina I found quite dense, but I always find academics explain things more clearly when having to talk rather than in their written work and/or reading off of something prewritten, which I think you can hear in the talk despite the philosophical neologisms, jargon, etc.

I found the general topic of great interest and was thinking of asking on here about maybe further discussion, as to me while I agree with Joseph Kay's blog on the difference between communist demands and leftist demands (stressing material needs versus how the economy should be managed) and think it's a better annunciation of what some people are trying to get at with the whole "no demands" thing (I can't find the blog post/article in search by the way). So wage demands are material needs, but to me wages for housework seems to me more like a transitional demand, i.e. not possible under capitalism. It was also strange to hear Theorie Communiste referenced when as I understand it they theorise the current illegitimacy of the wage demand. So I was wondering what people think?

The Q&A was pretty awful tbh. Most of the "looking at the contradictions of white people in a glass box" (mark Fisher tweeted "Too often, 'reflecting on contradictions' is m/class secular version of saying Grace.") and the mentions of "privilege" in that usual individualised, guilt inducing and moralising way that does nothing (Also tweeted "Gotta tell you, this kind of shit is why those of us from working class backgrounds were turned off from politics.").
Plus activist pet projects like open source mentioned, which touched upon some interesting notions surrounding immateriality, but I think Marina was polite in responding in a questioning way rather than just saying they were 'mistaken' (wrong).

I'm going to listen to the free association talk now which seems interesting.

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Sep 6 2011 15:55
Fall Back wrote:
I heard this gentrified Peckham?

Haha, so it seems from the self aware questions of "contradictions". Art and culture cause gentrification. roll eyes

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Sep 6 2011 16:57
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wojtek wrote:
As Nina Power pointed out there's a problem with these sort of events in that you expect to discover/ be told the correct line

With DSG doing it? Hardly, they think the correct line is a libcommunity meme.

You mean it's not? *sits down and rethinks entire life*

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Sep 6 2011 17:51

I went to the Nina Power talk. I respect the work that the individuals put into it, and I know and like most of them, but i think there were some problems with it.

Firstly, it didn't exactly "gentrify Peckham" but it was rather odd sitting in a glitzy car showroom with plate glass windows (I thought you autonomists believed in smashing them rather than installing your...ahem...'art' on them? wink ).

More than that though, we arrived midway through a thoroughly impenetrable discussion about...well...elements of lesbian feminism, lesbian feminist separatism and then just about anything really, being almost entirely conducted by about 10 individuals - who apparently all knew each other - sat on beanie bags. There were then around another 20 people sat on chairs, spectating, yawning, reading the prop or (mostly, according to the hashtag) tweeting. As one person pointed out on Twitter, you can't really hold a discussion series on self-organisation and then posit a panel discussion. It maybe my teacher training, but things like seating are absolutely crucial in social environments. I was taught to alter it when people's energy levels start to drop, and I was itching to make people stand up or talk in pairs! (lol)

Perhaps it was as much the fault of the attendees as the seating arrangements, since they seemed to be entirely university educated, youngish, arty/hipster types with nice accents and the correct jargon, and they appeared to be treating it as an academic lecture, in terms of body language and participation (or lack of) in the situation.

I'd be interested to hear what the organisers felt they gained out of it, and how that tallies with their intentions. To my mind, it seemed to have more to do with propagating the specialisation of academia and intellectualism for its own ends than anything else.